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Breed Specific Legislation Enough can not be done or said to protect not only rights, but the rights of all the wonderful breed owners. Please, lets all lend a hand

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Old 06-18-2009, 10:33 PM
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Re: So very mad!!!

We have been doing weekly rentals from Budget/Avis for a few years now and it's the same way. If there is excessive hair in the car you have to pay for the interior to be cleaned. They don't care if you have dogs in the car.
 
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:47 PM
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I sure can agree with you guys. We must understand that this isnt going to change at all not one bit. it is going to get worst due to the fact that people sell these dogs. We all know that the dogs should even be breed. I think what needs to happen is a group needs to forum a gov group so they can track the dog ok. This is just a thought ok!!! One all does have a social card like humans. No dog can go to the vet or nothing without this card. To stay at hotels and etc you need to show this card ok. To get this card means your mom and dog to the puppy must have a card. At brith all puppys get a card well at 5 months and on. They must go back to get there card renew. Which would be a breed test some thing in a matter. So that all the dog out there now without a card will die. This sad but we must save the breed,if you have a dog now you can apply for one. If your dog isnt mean and etc and can pass the test then you get one. so all the dogs without one are like immigrants they must be put down. Some thing that this is just a thought, i think it would work.So nobody could say your dog cant do nothing as long as you have the card. That means your dog has shoots and vtp and etc. People know that you have done test. You think about i want all of you guys to come over to my house right now and eat dinner. You walk in and you see lex well lex is 100 pound rottweiler/He is just a baby and you dont know how he is going to act and then i turn around and he bits you some thing like that. We can never say what are dog will do unless we train are dog and that is a life long thing. there are some many people that say there dogs are good and have papper like akc and that does mean nothing.Akc is good but that does help us get a hotel room and etc there has to be more. That's what happen to pit bull's which i had one before and you already know what im going to say great doog haahha. It was but at the same time what is going to show people that the dog is good. if you show your dog that you have done test and etc. It like one of them thing i believe when i see. They see the social and they have to believe. What do you guys think and think outside the box on this one ok
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:47 AM
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Re: So very mad!!!

Sorry, but that entire post didn't make any sense. You want to recommend that we all get cards for our dogs, and the dogs that don't get the cards get put down?

OP, I'm very sorry to hear about the hotel. That's really just an ugly stereotype and not fair to anybody, and unfortunately the insurance companies get to dictate all of this.
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:41 AM
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Re: So very mad!!!

Ok I think JeremyJ is saying that all Rotties should have to pass a test (ie CGC) and have current vet records which will assure the public that they are well behaved and healthy. Once you get these things done something like a Social Security card (ie city registration) will be issued to you FOR the dog. You take this card and then hotels, apartments, home insurance, etc will have to accept your dog because you've proven yourself a responsible owner and your dog has proven itself to be stable.

The dogs that don't have one? Well, seems like they will be put down.

Thinking out of the box as requested, its not a completely crazy idea with the exception of killing all of the other dogs. Maybe the guhment should take over dog breeding so it can be regulated. lol
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:58 AM
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Re: So very mad!!!

State Run Breeding - hmmm. Only problem with that is PetCo would charge the Guhment $1000 for a pooper scoper and Kibble would be $150 a barrel.

I think Jeremy has somewhat of a point. Give a premium to those of us who are responsible owners (this goes for any breed) and put more teeth (pardon the pun) into the existing laws. As I have said on other threads; I am focusing my energy on BSL by putting the issue before my city counselwoman for greater emphasis on behavior as opposed to breed for both owner and animal. I have suggested mandatory obedience training for pet and owners, for misdemeanor behavior offenses (run aways, barkers, etc.), and that biting wound be a felony with jail time for the owner and the dog rescued, rehabilitated, if possible, and rehomed and this this goes for all breeds my .02
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:59 AM
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Re: So very mad!!!

One more note. Programs would be paid for by the fees paid for by us good guys and fines paid for by the bad guys
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:21 PM
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Re: So very mad!!!

I sometimes wonder why they don't do the same thing with dogs and cats that they did with ferrrets. You have to have a liscence to breed them, and they can't be sold to an unlicensed person without being fixed first. It prevents an over abundance of ferrets and allows breeders to control what kind of homes they go into. Now the downside is with ferrets there are only 2 big breeders that provided to all the pet stores in the country but with a small change in the law they could make it so only proven show and work dogs/cats could be bred.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:49 PM
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Re: So very mad!!!

Oh man, that reminds me when i took my rottie to a motel and sneaked her in...she had to poo but
I couldnt let her out, so she went like 5 times...and dumb me threw it in the toilet which clogged...
Ilmao...i was hysterical but it was funny...ppl must have thought i left that mess....
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:58 PM
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Re: So very mad!!!

all you need is a well behaved dog and a service dog vest.
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:04 AM
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Re: So very mad!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzking1971 View Post
all you need is a well behaved dog and a service dog vest.
Don't even need the vest, if you say your dog is a service dog, it is!! I flew to the Bahamas with one of mine, small plane, he laid in the isle the whole way as my service dog.
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:06 AM
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Re: So very mad!!!

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I sure can agree with you guys. We must understand that this isnt going to change at all not one bit. it is going to get worst due to the fact that people sell these dogs. We all know that the dogs should even be breed. I think what needs to happen is a group needs to forum a gov group so they can track the dog ok. This is just a thought ok!!! One all does have a social card like humans. No dog can go to the vet or nothing without this card. To stay at hotels and etc you need to show this card ok. To get this card means your mom and dog to the puppy must have a card. At brith all puppys get a card well at 5 months and on. They must go back to get there card renew. Which would be a breed test some thing in a matter. So that all the dog out there now without a card will die. This sad but we must save the breed,if you have a dog now you can apply for one. If your dog isnt mean and etc and can pass the test then you get one. so all the dogs without one are like immigrants they must be put down. Some thing that this is just a thought, i think it would work.So nobody could say your dog cant do nothing as long as you have the card. That means your dog has shoots and vtp and etc. People know that you have done test. You think about i want all of you guys to come over to my house right now and eat dinner. You walk in and you see lex well lex is 100 pound rottweiler/He is just a baby and you dont know how he is going to act and then i turn around and he bits you some thing like that. We can never say what are dog will do unless we train are dog and that is a life long thing. there are some many people that say there dogs are good and have papper like akc and that does mean nothing.Akc is good but that does help us get a hotel room and etc there has to be more. That's what happen to pit bull's which i had one before and you already know what im going to say great doog haahha. It was but at the same time what is going to show people that the dog is good. if you show your dog that you have done test and etc. It like one of them thing i believe when i see. They see the social and they have to believe. What do you guys think and think outside the box on this one ok
Yeah, that's what we need, more government involvement in our lives, NOT.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:47 AM
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Re: So very mad!!!

I just can't get behind govt mandated/regulated "Good Doggie" cards.

I agree with the concept, and maybe hotels working with the CGC foundation to provide discounts or at least gauranteed service to cardholders, but not to putting down dogs based on a test provided by some govt agency.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:54 PM
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Re: So very mad!!!

When we travel either using a motel or camping I always ask if pets are permitted. My second question is do you have any breed restrictions. We have two dogs one of course is a rott. The other is an Austrialian mix. If there answer is yes I leave.

When staying in hotels I wont sneak my pup in (she is our second and is 1 1/2 yrs old) I will walk her right through the lobby. I want as many people as possible to see her and discover how good this breed is.

The same thing with camping, which we do alot. If there are any breed restrictions we leave. I was in Hope BC which is fairly close to home a couple weeks ago. I thought while I was there I would check out a couple campsites. Very large and popular ones at that.

I went into the first office and asked the question do you allow dogs. The answer was yes. Then I ask any breed restrictions. The answer is no, and what kind of dog do you have. I said a rottweiler and many places don't allow them. The look I got was priceless and the answer to my question was why would they not be allowed. The second campsite was pretty much the same conversation.

Needless to say I almost kissed these two ladies. The campsite we normally stay at just love Shelby.

I will walk my rottweiler through a hotel lobby, I will walk my rottweiler through a campsite, I take my rottewiler to the local autoparts store, she is very welcome there.

To all the haters I will always say, come and meet my rottweiler, if you come with an open mind you will leave with a different view of the breed.

Oh by the way I am very very proud of my dog.
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:37 PM
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Re: So very mad!!!

I think that it is wonderful that you do that with your Rott. I do the same I will not sneak my dog in and I want as many to see her as possible. I feel the same about my GSD mix. People are always scared to see me coming but they are very well behaved and extremely loving.
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Old 07-23-2009, 10:47 PM
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Re: So very mad!!!

Bear this in mind.
An individual person can be a brilliant creature,its mind knowing no bounds to learning,understanding and accepting anything this world may thrust upon them.

But the masses are generally ignorant,easily swayed to the positive or negative of any stimuli presented simply by the voicings of a few.

Therein lies the problem.

Sway the masses to the positive aspects of ownership of these BY SHOWING THEM that the Rottweiler is not a killing machine sent from hell to consume the flesh of men.

But this can only be done in exactly the same way BSL gets passed: as a COLLECTIVE.

AND TALK IS NOT ENOUGH!!!
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