Another "Dominant" Breed Attack

[moz205]

There has been another "dominant breed" attack in New York City today. A 90yo man was attacked by 2 pit bulls who had been "chained" in the yard because "they couldn't stop them from escaping". They showed the chains which were cheap, small metal. The gentleman is in critical condition, so far... The dogs have been PTS.
Now of course there is a call for banning pit bulls and I am sure the Rottie will not be far behind. This is the second attack in two weeks in NYC.
On the news, a young boy around ten (family member of dog owners) went on TV to tell how the dogs never would attack without a reason and how one of the dogs have a cut on his face insinuating the poor 90 yo did something to the dogs! Other neighbors stated complaints were made prior on numerous occasions as the dogs would get out and roam the streets.
Those dogs were set for failure beginning and ending with the owners. The city failed to protect the public from them also when there was no response to prior complaints, if those were truly made.
Sometimes I think it will be so easy for us to loose our pets (as IS happening) and I am infuriated by ignorance and stupidity of others. How dare they jeopardize the public and my choice of pets as a responsible owner.
Just had to vent...
Of course, my thoughts and prayers are with that poor man.

[Nishasmom]

What a horrible story . Most people have no idea what BSL is...I have a rottie bumper sticker on my car that says "ban stupid people not dogs". People always say "oh, that is so funny..."; then I proceed to tell them that it is NOT funny, how BSL is killing our pets and outlawing our family members. Most people are in shock and have never heard of such a thing. Its time we spread the word and punish those who deserve it.

[cleaningchick]

Nishasmom,
Do you know where I can get a bumper sticker like that? I already have one that says Rottiemom and my license plate says I love Rottweilers on it and I would love to add to my collection!
Thanks,
Jennifer

[TrinaJ]

That's just such a horrible story. You are right, those dogs were failed, by the owners and general public by the state of NY, and because of that a poor elderly man is suffering. My thoughts and prayers are with him.

Paige, what a great sticker, I am going to get one made for my dog trailer. There are so many stupid, irresponsible dog owners around now days that its making it hard for those of us who are responsible. Why should our breeds get punished for the irresponsibility of others!

[johnnycigar]

Originally Posted by moz205

There has been another "dominant breed" attack in New York City today. A 90yo man was attacked by 2 pit bulls who had been "chained" in the yard because "they couldn't stop them from escaping". They showed the chains which were cheap, small metal. The gentleman is in critical condition, so far... The dogs have been PTS.
Now of course there is a call for banning pit bulls and I am sure the Rottie will not be far behind. This is the second attack in two weeks in NYC.
On the news, a young boy around ten (family member of dog owners) went on TV to tell how the dogs never would attack without a reason and how one of the dogs have a cut on his face insinuating the poor 90 yo did something to the dogs! Other neighbors stated complaints were made prior on numerous occasions as the dogs would get out and roam the streets.
Those dogs were set for failure beginning and ending with the owners. The city failed to protect the public from them also when there was no response to prior complaints, if those were truly made.
Sometimes I think it will be so easy for us to loose our pets (as IS happening) and I am infuriated by ignorance and stupidity of others. How dare they jeopardize the public and my choice of pets as a responsible owner.
Just had to vent...
Of course, my thoughts and prayers are with that poor man.

i guess we've had enough of these pitbull dogs. they are too agressive and i srongly believe they attack for no reason because i've had my own experience too. my pitbull killed my pregnant mastiff and injured a girlfriend so badly she was hospitalized for 2 weeks

[Nishasmom]

Originally Posted by johnnycigar

i guess we've had enough of these pitbull dogs. they are too agressive and i srongly believe they attack for no reason because i've had my own experience too. my pitbull killed my pregnant mastiff and injured a girlfriend so badly she was hospitalized for 2 weeks

An unsocialized, untrained rottweiler could also kill a mastif...so could a lab, standard poodle, giant schnauzer, ect. Breed does not define the dog...training, socialization, good breeding, and proper handeling does.

No one on this forum tolerates ANY sort of breed discrimination. Several members here own pit bulls. Pit bulls are active in police work, therapy work, search and rescue, ect. Your pitt must have been untrained and unsocialized ...perhaps you should have gotten a pug instead of a rottweiler. At least it couldn't kill anyone.

[Valentine]

Originally Posted by johnnycigar

i guess we've had enough of these pitbull dogs. they are too agressive and i srongly believe they attack for no reason because i've had my own experience too. my pitbull killed my pregnant mastiff and injured a girlfriend so badly she was hospitalized for 2 weeks

OMG what a terrible thing to say. We're supposed to be in this together, not BREED BASH!! APBTs are in this fight with us!! ANY BREED is capable of killing another dog! I've heard of Labs killing St. Bernards...even one time, my cousins GSD/ Pit mix got loose and tried to attack my granny's blue heeler...guess who won? My granny came out to a very bloody "Bubba" laying stiff on her front porch, while her blue heeler had blood only on his face....

Think before you say stuff like that man...

In fact you know I am starting to think this guy IS a troll..he does nothing but try provoke fights and confrontations....

[tpa232]

This will continue to happen until responsible owners and their friends engage politically. Join ASPCA and other lobbies and support the fight against BSL. If it's coming up in your locality, network, find other owners, and protest your @#$@#$ off outside of the council building. Write, pass out flyers. Grass-roots is the way to go, the little guy CAN win. Make sure you're heard! My two cents .. I'm a sucker for activism. ;)

[rick1106]

hi i'm rick i'm new here. i have an 8 year old female rottie named holly. she weighs 150lbs. I took her on the ferry from delaware to nj. the crew and most people in general were either facinated by her or went the other way. so far,so good. suddenly,i hear a man say in a child like voice-"go get the doggie"!!! I turned to a 2 year old toddler running toward us screeching as kids will. holly began to growl,i put my hand out to stop girl,dad made his way over and said,"so,does it bite?". next a lady walked by with 2 wippets that went crazy trying to attack my dog. I exlaimed loudly to her that if she allowed her dogs to come any closer etc etc etc. and this one took the cake. A couple in their early 40's walked over to us and the lady asked me what breed she was,i told her and she became irrate,insisting that it wasnt a normal dog,it was {dont u hate when people refer to your dog as "it"? part wolf or black bear. This woman went to an officer on the boat to relate this terrorist hybrid dog story. THERE IS A GOD,the officer was a rott owner.

[moz205]

Originally Posted by johnnycigar

i guess we've had enough of these pitbull dogs. they are too agressive and i srongly believe they attack for no reason because i've had my own experience too. my pitbull killed my pregnant mastiff and injured a girlfriend so badly she was hospitalized for 2 weeks

Unfortunate for your girlfriend and dogs, pitbull included. Was this pit socialized or have obedience training? A dog can only do what it is allowed to do. In my opinion, you failed both dogs and your girlfriend. Granted, this breed is not for everyone just as a Rottie is not for everyone. I had an aggressive Rottie and probably would've killed many a dog if he got close enough. Of course, he was allowed with very few. In 13 yrs, he didn't get the chance to injure another dog. Diligence and caution was constant.
To discriminate against the pit is also discriminating against the Rottie. They are both breeds labeled "dominant" and come under BSL all over.
My friend had a pit who would've made any intruder a sandwich and a cup of tea! My cousin had 2 who never attacked or show aggression to anyone.
It's the owners fault when dogs go bad, medical issues aside.

[Marn]

What happened to that man was aweful, but it happens for so....many reasons. Most problems are due to bad breeding practices, and bad owners. People don't understand certain breeds before they buy either, and that can lead to all sorts of problems KNOW YOUR BREED! I heard a saying along time ago "Ban the deed not the breed" and thats a saying I stand by. I'm on my second Rottie and in the 14 years I've lived with the breed I've never had a problem.

[alessadry]

One must think why were the dogs chained in first place? I always have a bad feel of chained up dogs. Makes me feel the owners care less and keep them chained up all day with not much or zero social contact. My cousin in Europe used to keep her Siberians chained up all day and they acted as crazy. I would also think I would go crazy chained up all day. Dogs need stimulus, human interaction, an most of all, love. Why get a dog and chain it up? Rather buy a stuffed animal and put it on your shelf!

I think the ASPCA should also look at dogs chained up all day. This is not a decent living in my opinion. Would you keep you kids in the same spot all day? Dogs need to move about, have a bit of freedom, this is not natural.

I wish at least the owner would have crated them if there was no other choice. At least this episode would have not happened and the bad rep of pitbulls may have gotten a break.

[Obelix]

[QUOTE=johnnycigar;829857]

i guess we've had enough of these pitbull dogs. they are too agressive and i srongly believe they attack for no reason because i've had my own experience too. my pitbull killed my pregnant mastiff and injured a girlfriend so badly she was hospitalized for 2 weeks

Before you buy a dog of ANY breed ,just try to understand the history of that breed.This knowledge can prevent a lot of misery.
When you bougt a dog ,bred to fight ,you should have known that it was bred and created to be that way. So do not blame the dog .Just look in the mirror and ask yourself one thing:WHY!!

[mutabletao]

We lost our rottie last year. She was a hurricane Katrina rescue, and the sweetest dog I've ever known. 130lbs of lapdog. She ran from tiny dogs (like pekingese) .. but the one time my wife was home alone and someone tried to break in.. she waited for permission from my wife then went and chased the guy over the fence (and came back with a piece of his pants! good dog!). She loved small children and the elderly, and we often took her in as a therapy dog to nursing homes and with the handicapped. The breed of a dog really doesn't have much to do with their temperament. Understanding what will make your dog happy (by understanding what they were bred for) helps a lot, but nothing substitutes for proper training.

When we got Cassie (the rottie mentioned above) the first thing we did was take her to schutzhund obedience training twice a week for 6 months. Then she understood what we wanted her to do, and we understood what she could do. Everyone was happy.

[jrc87]

Originally Posted by johnnycigar

i guess we've had enough of these pitbull dogs. they are too agressive and i srongly believe they attack for no reason because i've had my own experience too. my pitbull killed my pregnant mastiff and injured a girlfriend so badly she was hospitalized for 2 weeks

What an odious comment.

I strongly believe that you are not capable of owning a strong breed. Please responsibly rehome any dog that you have over 30 lbs. and buy a Toy Poodle.