Infuriating!!!!!

[wamack]

just a random observation about the insurance company's state of mind... since when does the common thug with a "dangerous" dog go stay at a RESORT and bring their dog with them. Who they are really protecting are the ignorant people with untrained small breed dogs that run up to attack your leashed an trained "dangerous" rottweiler.

[nlavett]

Cheers Wamack!!!!! I heartily agree.

[lindak]

I too have been thru this numerous times as I have moved and in between buying and selling homes, needed an apartment. didn't happen. People are so ignorant. I have outright told the person on the other end of the phone, exactly that. As for traveling, I always travel with Porsha. Dog friendly hotels, although not 5 star, is where we stay. As long as she is with me, that's all that matters. Red Roof Inn, no questions asked!!!!!!
I was also lucky last summer when i moved back to NJ and we rented a condo in a "dog friendly" community. There were a few Rotties, chows, shepherds, etc...................

[paiton]

i always have a minimum of four rottees on my farm. i love my dogs and all rottees as a matter of fact, i have owned rottees all my life. it is true that problems are inevitable if they are owned by the wrong type of individuals. it is interesting to note that in the ad there was a man and a german shephard. when i was 8 yr old, i had to ride my bike past a neighbour who had a german shephard that always laid on their front step facing the road. i knew it was preying on me, i felt it, and i was very scared to ride my bike past there to go to school. i told my parents and they called the owners and explained the situation. the owners said that the dog has never hurt anyone let alone a child. so, off to school on my bike still feeling scared, then one morning i rode past the house the dog ran out and grabbed my leg, pulled me off my bike, and i was just screaming. i still have the scar on the back of my calf to this day. that was 30 yr. ago. btw even after that incident the neighbours only kept the dog tied up for about a week, then it was back sitting on the step in the front yard again.
any dog can be vicious, however, it is the owners that should be questioned as well as strict laws in order for the undesireable pet owners to adhere to and not just single out one breed of dog. that is so maddening.

[nlavett]

[quote=Kawakaze;806831]nlavett, ill clarify what im saying.

The hotel will probably loose business if people know they are big dogs staying there. QUOTE]

Kawakaze, the hotel is not discriminating against "big dogs". As I stated in my original post, the online advertisement shows a man and his gsd.

I am not disagreeing with your point that uneducated people may be afraid of our breed. All I am saying is that being vocal is one of our only recourses to take. I simply refuse to sit back and go , "oh well, I'll just work with my dog and hope the rest of the world gets better with/about this."

[nlavett]

Paiton,

What a terrible experience for you as a child. Big congrats though on being strong enough not to let that affect your perception about all dogs. My controller at work was also bitten by a gsd. She was opening a sliding glass door next to the dog while it was eating and inadvertently (sp?) bumped him. He latched onto her thigh and the owners had to get him off. She has scars to this day as well. Like you though, she realized it was one dog, one set of owners...not a whole breed. She absolutely adores our Xasha. Always asking about her and buying her treats for getting one month older!

[BFoster]

If I may say, the insurance company isn't protecting itself out of disrespect for anyone other than their shareholders. It is the vicarious liability laws in Florida that make the insurance companies so conservative. If they don't make those stipulations, and something should happen, then they are going to have to answer the question, "If you knew Rottweilers were consistently on the list of top ten dogs most likely to attack someone, then why did you allow them?" Unfortunately for the insurance companies, there is no answer to that question that wouldn't produce a seven figure punitive damages settlement from a jury.

I also think the resort could be somewhat more considerate in how they word their restrictions. The are not qualified to make distinctive states about breed behaviour. A little common courtesy goes a long way.

[QuietDaze]

Originally Posted by wamack

just a random observation about the insurance company's state of mind... since when does the common thug with a "dangerous" dog go stay at a RESORT and bring their dog with them. Who they are really protecting are the ignorant people with untrained small breed dogs that run up to attack your leashed an trained "dangerous" rottweiler.

Since when do only 'common thugs' have ill behaved dogs? Do you mean to say that Mr. and Mrs. Average Joe don't let their dogs do things that are generally considered rude? Mr. and Mrs. Joe always pick up after their dogs, heel their dogs, have non dog aggressive dogs? So I'm really not sure what your point was with the common thug comment. What determines what a common thug is? According the the OC they did not say 'large breeds' were not allowed, they specified what breeds were not allowed. Pitbulls actually are not large dogs at all.

Actually, in light of the fact that Rottie's ARE in the top 10 list of dangerous breeds do you blame them, although I believe German Shepherds are too. However, I think the public perception of a G.S. and a Rottie are different. I agree that most people ARE hesistant and intimidated. They are scary looking dogs. I love mine, but I am never unaware that he appears threatening. This is a business - they are trying to gain more business and appeal to the public so having scary, intimidating dogs running around isn't likely to achieve that goal. I don't agree with the restrictions placed upon me because of my dog but I accept that I have a dog that most people are afraid of. Regardless of how 'sweet' he is and just wants to 'kill with kisses'. Strangers don't want to hear that.

I would much rather they require all dogs to have a CGC or equivalent, at least I could have a reasonable expectation that the dogs will be fairly well behaved.

In any event, maybe it's just me, but I really don't WANT to travel to a resort that allows dogs. If they had some type of kennel on the property like Disney that would be fine, but dogs in rooms, walking the halls? No thank you. The fact is that dogs stink, shed, pee and poop and it isn't always picked up promptly or cleaned up properly.

One last thing - how can a person be racist towards a dog?

[tigerlady81]

way to go i think you did the right thing to send in that letter..as for the people out there talking about "statistics" i work as a dog groomer and i have been biten by more small dogs in my line of work then i have been ever by a rottie/ big dog.. but its not the little ones people ever say anything about and to me thats crap.. people always make such a big deal becuse of of the few dogs such as sheperds and rotties and chows and dobbies that have not been trianed / breed right that have gone after people but lets face it it is the owners/breeders fault more then the dogs..

[QuietDaze]

Originally Posted by tigerlady81

way to go i think you did the right thing to send in that letter..as for the people out there talking about "statistics" i work as a dog groomer and i have been biten by more small dogs in my line of work then i have been ever by a rottie/ big dog.. but its not the little ones people ever say anything about and to me thats crap.. people always make such a big deal becuse of of the few dogs such as sheperds and rotties and chows and dobbies that have not been trianed / breed right that have gone after people but lets face it it is the owners/breeders fault more then the dogs..

I'm not a huge fan of statistics but they're out there. As large dog owners of course we are aware that small dogs bite and can be aggressive as well. It's also a fact that big dogs do big damage. ex. my husband got bitten on the calf by a small dog whose irresponsible owner let it run out of the gate and ACROSS the street to where my husband was. Work rules required that he go to the doctor. Doc. gave him some antibiotic ointment and sent him on his way. Do you think the result would have been the same had a Rottie, Pittie, Shepherd or Chow got ahold of him? Some of it is just common sense. I might be in danger of getting bitten by a small dog but it's more dangerous to get bitten by a big one.

[webangel2b]

I'll go along with insurance demands, those are made on my as a homeowner as well.

However - Let's look at KOA campsites for a sec. There home site says they take dogs, then why do I have to call each location of interest to find out if they have a breed ban? They may be private owned which would mean private insurance but it makes me mad as hell too!

Stupid people are everywhere!

My insurance will hold our policy (state farm), but will not insure me if it's my Rottie that does something. Doesn't matter the reason!

[Janus'sMom]

Originally Posted by webangel2b

My insurance will hold our policy (state farm), but will not insure me if it's my Rottie that does something. Doesn't matter the reason!

Correct me if I'm wrong... But even if your Rotti does do something... isn't that what insurance is for? It's like saying if you get in a car accident your insurance won't cover you if you did something wrong, what would be the point?

[webangel2b]

I totally agree Janus, totally!

Insurance companies in FL specifically are really "butt bitters"! More so then my "restricted breed" rottie is :).