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Breed Specific Legislation Enough can not be done or said to protect not only rights, but the rights of all the wonderful breed owners. Please, lets all lend a hand

 

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Old 03-01-2008, 02:14 AM
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Re: Pet Sterilization Becomes Law in LA (Cal.)

CAPITALISM - an economic system in which ownership of the means of production, and exchange of wealth, is made and maintained by private individuals and corporations.

SOCIAL DEMOCRACY - a political/social system which uses democracy to create state-sponsored programs and regulations, designed to ameliorate the injustices of capitalism.

Capitalism has little to do with this, unless you own a puppy mill.
Social Democracy is the structure of (most of) our education system in the US, as well as the structure of the system through which cities offer free or low-cost spay/neuter programs... not to mention the shelters that either house or euthanize unwanted animals.
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:45 PM
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Re: Pet Sterilization Becomes Law in LA (Cal.)

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Geez, so much hysteria.

Ask yourself...
Do I truly want to stand for the end of pet overpopulation ??
Do I truly want to end the irresponsible breedings ??
Do I truly want to end the misery of all the unwanted pets ??

If you truly do, then either support these actions or propose an alternative. The LA law sounds rather overreaching, but it is in the right direction. We don't live in the Wild West anymore, and Manifest Destiny has proven to be a very flawed philosophy, so we are going to have to make agreements (laws) to remain a civil society.
Hi guys!

This is my first post in ages, so for that reason alone I may be in trouble here!

I personally feel this is a *step* in the right direction. Is this fair? Probably not. But, how many times have we commented on here about the results poor breeding has left upon our community?

Would somebody mind sharing an opinion regarding religion on this issue? I promise not to disect it - I just personally an unfamiliar with this.

I had Sadie spayed when she was 9 months old...unbeknownst to me, she was in heat, bled out on the table, and cost me several hundred $$$ because her procedure was considered "high risk." For that reason I would honestly consider ammending this law to make the pups younger for their altering.

But, with that said, this is a shame to the community of responsible breeders. This really is a catch 22 - I am so torn on this issue. As a rottie owner who simply wanted a family pet, I can agree with this law. But as a member of a responsible rottweiler community, I also feel otherwise.

What a shame that things have come to this. Imagine - if people would just breed and purchase/adopt dogs responsibly this would not even be an issue.
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:25 PM
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Re: Pet Sterilization Becomes Law in LA (Cal.)

I spoke to an AC officer today and she had no answer for me in regards to proving that your dog is a show dog. The only thing she was interested in was coming to see my animals and their condition. This was not very well planned out.
So now it seems to me that the AKC and breed clubs are going to have to be the ones to come up with a solution to this important issue.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:30 AM
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Yep, typical, shutting the barn doors after the horses are out! PETA is just one more step closer to their agenda, eliminating domestic pets, period. I wonder what's next on the list?
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:59 PM
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Re: Pet Sterilization Becomes Law in LA (Cal.)

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This was not very well planned out.
So now it seems to me that the AKC and breed clubs are going to have to be the ones to come up with a solution to this important issue.
Not only that... as bad as the economy is right now the new law expects us to pay for the procedure in full... adult dogs run as much as $140 dollars and up... these "lawmakers" dont offer any kind of financial aid in order for owners to pay for it in order to not get fined...
"DO IT OR PAY A HEFTY FINE!!!" as I recall one person say on the news the other night.
Im sorry but money is tight in my household and for $140 I can pay a housebill and keep my family and pets warm at night.
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