Michigan BSL

[GypsysMom]

since September 07 we have had a few dog attacks, the first being 4 american bulldog x attacked and killed 2 people within 500ft of each other, the second was the other day when 2 pitbulls killed a horse, her injuries were so severe she had to be put down, now the owner of the 2 dogs is being charged and is possibly going to serve jail time, I understand he/she is fully responsible for the dogs, and that they should be thankful it was a horse and not a human, but what Im wondering about is (please if anyone can help with the answer) is if you go to jail for your dogs killing another animal, why is it that people dont get charged when leaving weapons( loaded guns) that takes a humans life, dont get me wrong its horrible for this poor horse, but you can replace an animal you cant replace a human please dont think Im not an animal lover because of that comment

I agree the dogs should have been put down which they were, and I agree the owner shouldnt own dogs anymore, But I dont think banning the breeds is the answer or putting the owner in jail( unless it was a human)

Im sorry if you all dont understand my way of thinking but Im so boggled by this maybe its just this county I live in, and if the dogs owners are charged and sentenced I will have pleanty to say, since the owners of the gun that killed my son were the ones responsible got off with no punishment nor did the boy..

[harleychik66]

Gypsysmom- I am so very sorry for the loss of your son. I can't begin to imagine how devastating it must be to lose a child.

That being said I can only imagine they treat it as such. A dog is a living breathing being. Capable of thought and it can act of its own free will. It must be trained and disciplined. If the owner fails in this he/or she is responsible.

A gun is an inatimate object not able to function unless someone actually engages the weapon. (the old saying guns don't kill people, people kill people)I don't know the particulars of your sons death, but from what you write I assume the owners of the gun had it somewhere and someone else got ahold of it and shot your son.

If the gun was stolen then in no way could the owners be held accountable. If they had it somewhere that it was easily accessable and someone else got ahold of it and killed your son then I would think they should at least be held accountable. If nothing else at least for negligence.

As I said I don't know the set of circumstances that caused this whole awful mess. Nor do I know the laws governing weapons in your state. It does sound like the whole situation is incredibly unfair and unjust to you. I can't imagine nothing being done. Nothing can bring back your son and I truely understand your quest for justice.

Ultimately in either case dog or gun it boils down to responsibilty. Whoever is the responsible party should be held accountable. I agree with you that someone should be held accountable in the death of your son. I am so sorry that this did not happen for you. Hopefully this is something that will continue to haunt them for the rest of their life. I know that is a small measure of solice, however I firmly believe what comes around goes around and whoever did this to your son will "get theirs" in the end.

Shawn

[GypsysMom]

And who knows if the dog that killed the horse was even a pit bull, you know how the media is, even if was a pit lab x they would say it was because it was a pit, it really is begining to bother dog owners who are responsible.

My son was killed when the owners (parents) left it loaded unsecured in a drawer and their son got it and shot him, so yes negligence should have been a charge, but as far as BSL im not giving my dogs up because of some political people that thinks its correct

[Karyn]

The NRA is very powerful. Even after the Virginia Tech massacar they were pretty successful in fighting any significant changes in the gun law. A car can be a weapon - a knife can be a weapon. Practially anything can be a weapon. In all cases, the human wealding the weapon is liable - However, it is called CRIMINAL Justice for a reason. In too many instances The Criminal gets justice - not the victim.

[GypsysMom]

Oh Im not anti gun Im anti stupidity with owners, and I say that along with people that own dogs, if you are going to own a dog be responsible so we good owners dont have to worry about losing our beloved pets due to their negligence, and thats what Im trying to get across to people, and also that more then pit bulls or rottweilers are responsible for deaths but the media fails to metion that

[harleychik66]

Originally Posted by GypsysMom

Oh Im not anti gun Im anti stupidity

I only took part of your quote because that pretty much sums up everything and everything

[GypsysMom]

Well they charged the owner with 5 counts 2 of having animals stray and 3 counts of having unlicenced dogs, the prosecuter wants to have laws changed on owning breeds but he made a statement im trying to figure out (maybe its to early for me lol) here it is

There ought to be difference between a Golden Retriever running loose in the neighborhood and a dog attacking an animal and killing it," he said.

I guess I may not be reading this correctly, first time I read it, I was thinking he meant its ok for a Golden to runn lose please tell me my headache is making me angry and not reading..

The Lady said the horse saved her life, I know she yelled and threw objects at the dog that was attacking her horse then the other dog showed up and they never went towards her or even attemped to attack her..

[fbkeays]

I rarely walk my own dogs in my neighborhood because of the loose, aggressive GOLDENS. Yep, I have been charged by and had saliva smeared on my pant leg by an aggressive RESCUE (that means neutered) golden retriever male in MY OWN driveway. I didn't have a dog with me when that happened. These dogs and there are about 4 of them- 3 from the same owner(they are all rescue dogs too) are allowed to roam and do whatever they want and what they do is charge people and go after other dogs being walked. I have called AC a number of times and NOTHING gets done because they are golden retrievers.
The guy who made that statement should come to my neighborhood and see that it doesn't matter the breed, it is the owner. The owner with the 3 is almost too stupid to breath, but they have bred and produced 3 children. They don't understand how their dogs get out, but it is plain to me. It is the open front door. It is the open garage door. It is the open gate. It is the storage boxes in a shape of a giant stair steps leading over the fence.
They also chain their dogs with the chain being able to reach the sidewalk. The dogs lay in wait behind bushes and charge when you go by. I walk in the middle of the street because of that. The dogs are on flat collars that are about 5 inches too big and the dogs just slip out of their collars too. They don't understand how they do that too. As I said, I am amazed that these people even know how to breath. They don't think it is a problem because their dogs are neutered and goldens. But I am the demon spawn because I have intact rottweilers. The difference is that I don't allow my dogs to roam the neighborhood- they do.
I am just a little bit peeved that people with bad goldens get a pass, time after time.