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Breed Specific Legislation Enough can not be done or said to protect not only rights, but the rights of all the wonderful breed owners. Please, lets all lend a hand

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Old 09-06-2007, 09:42 AM
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Muzzle Laws?

Hello everyone! I have a 10 month old female rottie named Kazia. I was at the bus stop with my daughter and Kazia today(the 1st day of school). Kazia was in a down so close to my left side she was on my foot. She was just chillin out watching people pass with a smile on. A women passed and informed me (with an attitude) that it's law in Yonkers to muzzle your dog when around children in public. I'm sure if Kazia was a little dog the woman wouldn't have even looked twice at us. I tried to find specific laws for Yonkers, NY and haven't seen that. Is anyone familiar with the laws by me or can give me a specific site for detailed dog laws?
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:19 PM
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I don't know of any. I would recommend contacting your alderperson and asking the question of him/her. If they don't know they should be able to get this information. If they say there is one than I would ask them to send you the link to the statute.

It was probably a comment of ignorance, but then again. When I relocated to WI I was staying w/ my parents till we closed on our house. I kept getting stopped by police when walking my dog and was told "you cannot walk that dog". The first time I laughed. The second time I got angry. Then I looked for information that would explain these "stops". Anyhow Milwaukee has a law that you must be 16 or older to walk a Rott or a Pit and cannot be slight of stature. The third time I was stopped I asked if the comment was directed towards my age or my stature (my dog is almost equal my weight). The officer said both! I showed him my DL prooving I was 30! And I then picked up my dog and carried him off yelling over my shoulder: if I can carry this dog I certainly can control him!

If there is no such law I would print off the proof showing that there isn't a law as such and show it to the lady that stopped you.
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:29 PM
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I don't know of any. I would recommend contacting your alderperson and asking the question of him/her. If they don't know they should be able to get this information. If they say there is one than I would ask them to send you the link to the statute.

It was probably a comment of ignorance, but then again. When I relocated to WI I was staying w/ my parents till we closed on our house. I kept getting stopped by police when walking my dog and was told "you cannot walk that dog". The first time I laughed. The second time I got angry. Then I looked for information that would explain these "stops". Anyhow Milwaukee has a law that you must be 16 or older to walk a Rott or a Pit and cannot be slight of stature. The third time I was stopped I asked if the comment was directed towards my age or my stature (my dog is almost equal my weight). The officer said both! I showed him my DL prooving I was 30! And I then picked up my dog and carried him off yelling over my shoulder: if I can carry this dog I certainly can control him!

If there is no such law I would print off the proof showing that there isn't a law as such and show it to the lady that stopped you.

That is an interesting law....I've never heard of anything like that before! And let me just say, if anyone ever told me i couldn't walk my own dog - because I'm slight in stature, I'd be pissed! I bet I have more control over my 75lb rottweiler than most people have over their children! Ridiculous!
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:32 PM
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Cheers to that! I know it was extreme and my dog wasn't particularly thrilled about being carried but I felt it would prove my point. Course we don't control our dogs physically but rather mentally.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:08 PM
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I tried to search and the only thing I could find for Yonkers was the usual set of rules - keep them on a leash, clean up after them, get them licensed, etc. If you want to know for sure, maybe you could call your local animal shelter or SPCA.

I wouldn't identify what type of dog you have, but say a woman told you that all dogs need to be muzzled when they're around children in public.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:17 PM
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I think the muzzle law would be more effective for ignorant people who make ignorant statements. They are easy to pick out, just listen. I have never heard of such a thing and live on the Yonkers border. My dog is amoung kids all the time, on the streets, parks etc in Yonkers all the time. What bus stop? I'll meet ya there with Buddy!
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:31 PM
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That doesn't make sense - if you had to have your dog muzzled in public around children then your dog would have to be muzzled all the time!!! If you can't find a specific reference on your city by-law site then I wouldn't worry about it.

In the city I live in there is a by-law that all pits must be muzzled and leashed while in public - it's very clearly stated and easy to find. Sounds to me like a busy body who has nothing better to do than start trouble for her own enjoyment Somebody should muzzle her!
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:52 PM
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I found a law that states if someone makes a complaint about your dog being aggressive a judge can order you to muzzle your dog in public depending on the opinion of a dog behavior specialist. At the same time the judge can make the decision to euthenize the dog. That lady could never say my dog was being aggressive in any way laying on my foot smiling at everyone. If she ever tells me that again I'll tell her to stop a police officer and have them tell me that. moz205 the bus stop at Hawthorne and Herriot at 8 am.
P.S. My puppy is 8 months old on the 10th of Sept. not 10 months.
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:19 PM
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I wish there was a law like that here! Just last night I was almost taking out by a black lab in a parked car while returning my shopping cart to the cart corral. Talk about AGGRESSIVE and of course unsupervised. I was very happy he didn't jump out of the car considering the windows were down. I am kidding about the part of wanting such a law here.

That law is really, really stupid. It leaves a lot of room for interpretation. I have heard comments before that my dog looks aggressive when to me he looks happy. I guess a 94 pound dog that has his mouth hanging open so you can see most of his teeth could look aggressive to some people. Ditto if he barks at a squirrel or the 5 pound chihuahua in the car next to me that is barking up a storm. THANK GOODNESS there is a requirement that the supposed aggressiveness needs to be backed up by the opinion of a behavior specialist.

That said knowing there IS such a law I would be extra careful. I don't mean make sure your dog is behaving as of course she was. Maybe try making friends with other parents at the same bus stop so that if a fairy tale gets created by the not so nice mom there are other witnesses that can attest to the foolishness. Be it the Rotts the Pits the Presa's the battle is almost always uphill.

A good friend of mine had AC at his house constantly. The neighbors wanted the dog gone so they kept calling in these BS noise complaints that the dog was a nuisance and barking whenever the guy wasn't home. After receiving several citations and at the risk of losing his dog (he didn't think his dog was barking but he wasn't there and couldn't know for sure) he purchased and set up a webcam and watched hours of his good boy peacefully and quietly sleeping on his bed. Just be diligent about CYA for Kazia's sake.
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:56 PM
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KaziasMom, not sure where that bus stop is but should be easy to find! 8 am is a trying time around here getting son off to school and myself to work but I will see what I can do. Maybe if we're both off for some reason I will see ya there. My guy is 13 mths. Some people are just vindictive for no other reason than it's a Rottie.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:42 PM
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Actually my bus stop is now at Hawthorne n Prospect bec they got my daughter in the same school as my boys. So I won't be seeing that lady again. Also I do the mothers n fathers there know us and have no problem with Kazia. I posted a few pics of her in the Gallery. They're a few months old. Need to buy new camera.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:46 AM
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Glad to hear it! And it's awesome you know the other parents there. It's just regardless of the circumstances 99% of the time our dogs will be blamed for everything first.
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Slight of stature? That would be TOOOOOOO flipping funny, except that it is real.
I woulda had to say, sorry Mr. Officer, why don't you pass me a couple of those donuts you have stashed in there and I will get started right away on becoming a fatso.
Who in the heck could even put their signature on such a stupid law?
If you aren't underweight, maybe you should carry around a government weight chart that shows the appropriate stature for a person your size and age.
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Where is this gonna end I wonder?

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Old 09-13-2007, 04:53 PM
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I agree completely. I talked to Joan at Wisconsin Rott Rescue about it since she helped to construct the wording of Milwaukee's Dangerous Dog laws. I asked her "what the???" I had to show her the statue since she was so astonished. They added that into her recommendations. Anyhow as she said I am a little twig but if your dogs ever stepped out of line the sky would fall!
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:20 AM
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Hello everyone! I have a 10 month old female rottie named Kazia. I was at the bus stop with my daughter and Kazia today(the 1st day of school). Kazia was in a down so close to my left side she was on my foot. She was just chillin out watching people pass with a smile on. A women passed and informed me (with an attitude) that it's law in Yonkers to muzzle your dog when around children in public. I'm sure if Kazia was a little dog the woman wouldn't have even looked twice at us. I tried to find specific laws for Yonkers, NY and haven't seen that. Is anyone familiar with the laws by me or can give me a specific site for detailed dog laws?
I think its a shame that this lady had this sort of attitude towards you, i live in australia were rottys too are getting a bad name due to irresponsible owners or breeders that are breeding wholly soley for looks and not the whole package like temperament!!
What would happen if you said to the lady your child should be muzzled to keep it quite if you were in a resturant or shopping center you would be abused and yelled at for dare saying that, i believe it is the same thing we are all animals, when you think of it!!! Why should you have to muzzle a dog when out and about it is surpose to be fun for both dog and man
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