breeding forbid

[ROBIN MANGOLD]

Like to know your opinion about the law that is as per 01 of july by the Dutch government
that says:
As per 01 july 1999 the following dogs are forbidden to breed in Holland.
1.The American Stefferd
2.The Dogo Argentino
3.The Fila Braseilero
4.The Mastino Napolitano
and last but not least THE ROTTWEILER
This is ofcourse the lost of some beautiful dogs and perhaps our last motion of the breeders is that the dogs must take a test of socializing and agressive that the have to pas but the government are still made the decision to forbid those breedings.
First the docktailing in Germany and now the whole Rottweiler breeding in The Netherlands?

Please give me your reaction on this law in Holland.

Robin

[Baren]

Extreamly disapointed!!!
What are the breeders in Holland going to do? How can the government be so stupid!!! Is there any way this can change?
Some of my favourite lines are there!!! I wasn't expecting this no way!!! I just bought a dog from Holland. Too bad! Thanks for letting me know though.

[German Vanegas]

I have been trying to warn people in the USA about it... there is a hidden agenda and pending legislation, proposing the banning of several dog breeds, including the Rottweiler (one of the "top priorities"). Remember that some politicians love to model laws after European countries... the Rottweiler may become banned in the USA sooner than most people is aware of... or care for. NO JOKE!

[Baren]

THIS IS CRAZY!!!

[Maggie]

Hello Robin, Im shocked and very angry,although not overly surprised. This movement of groups to rid these breeds has worked seroiusly hard within government and its time ALL ROTTWEILER OWNERS pulled togehter to fight this,we in New Zealand are now encountering the same problem with the government and anti dog movement,we CANNOT be complacent anymore.

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Maggie Murray
Rottweiler Specialist Judge
New Zealand

[Domina]

Hold on! I heard about this and its not that the breeding is being forbidden. The dogs to be bred must pass an agression test of some kind before they are allowed to be bred. If the dog fails, no breeding. If the dog passes, its OK.

Randi

[German Vanegas]

The problem is, the so-called "aggression test" is directed to completely eliminate drives and protection abilities. In other words, the dog cannot have any potential to do personal protection or sport bitework AT ALL. This is one of those "good-doers" ideas that bite work is bad, show ring is good. With such reasoning, the dog's working potential is totally inhibited. Research a little more and find out. This new law is a vehicle to heavily restrict ownership of specific dog breeds.

[Tony4Rotts]

This is appalling to me for i love those traits in a rottie that german mentioned. Without these traits you are vanishing away the very essence of the breed. This dog was bred for these traits and to decide to do away with the breed in whole just for political points would be a violation of my rights. This is just my personal opinion but i am ready to stand by my breed and do whatever possible to continue the success of ethical professional breeders before me!!

[German Vanegas]

Tony,
You are right. We have to stand up all together and fight for our rights, or these taken for granted rights will be stripped away... it has happen before many times. If we let our guard down, next thing you know you are not allowed to own a Rottweiler due to a political decision based on myths and misconceptions. Right here, in the Land of the Free!

[Domina]

I didn't know how strict the rules were. I think it is impossible for any type of dog, not just a rott, to not be protective. There are people that don't want the dog specifically for protection work though. I guess they figure the dog's natural protective instinct will kick in when necessary. I had a mutt who was the most loveable and non-aggressive dog in the world. But believe me when someone was up to no good, that dog knew it and let everyone know. Where can I read more about the law?
Randi

[German Vanegas]

Let me explain you. The new law in Holland is not geared towards TEMPERAMENT testing, but AGGRESSION testing (?!). It is obvious that any good dog, from one of the working breeds stated by the law, may react with aggression or display aggression if PROVOKED to it. In other words, high drives and protective instincts of a true working dog, normally would make it react to a threat by barking aggressively, growling, or may even attempt to bite (like in civil agitation training). So if one of the dog breeds tested, even though it might have the soundest most stable temperament, displays even controlled trained aggression, it is considered DANGEROUS AGGRESSION (?!) Imagine that, the whole idea is to eliminate a dog's working ability, and create just beauty show dogs and plain "toy" type of dogs out of magnificent working breeds! Believe me, sport dogs and protection dogs will be a thing of the past in Holland, once such law is implemented. Pitiful.

[Baren]

I totaly agree German and I am very sorry to. But is there any way this can possibly change? Having to pass these tests or bannishing the whole breeding is just as bad. It's just as bad not to breed any rottweilers than to breed bad type. How did the Rottweiler Club of Holland react? Is there anything we can possibly do to help? What do the breeders in Holland say?

[German Vanegas]

TEMPERAMENT TESTING IS THE KEY... but how they came out with the idea about "aggression testing"? Out of ignorance about working breeds and their traits!

[Domina]

Thanks for explaining to me German. That law is ridiculous. Why don't they just pull the dogs teeth out while they're at it? It's just ignorance. Instead of racism in humans, its breedism in dogs. Very very sad.
Randi

[Baren]

If you were reffering to me German, that's what I meant when I said tests (aggression tests).