I cannot believe this...

[lengel]

Definitely crate your dog during human meals. Unless your grandfather is interested in the latest and greatest on dog behavior or the concept of boundaries or pretty much anything that's come down the pipe in the last fifteen years, it doesn't make sense to try to teach him in the short time period that you have. He's just trying to bond with your dog in the way that his generation understands. You can, however, make sure that your dog succeeds and that's what you need right now.

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[EnzoyTurbo;808391]

You can call me whatever you like ,but not ignorant.If you don't want to read this answer, then don't.Your own ignorance is creating a problem for your at a very vulnerable age.Hope your dog is strong enough to carry your mistakes.
Instead of removing it while eating you should protect your dog against the provocative behaviour of your grandpa.

Turbo is now 5 months old--almost 6

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Fact : a pup
and

when we eat at the dinner table he would always lay down under my seat and play with his toys .

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Fact :a habit

unfortunately my grandparents are staying with me for another month

Fact: strange people in the pack and concurence for his place

and my grandpa does not listen at all to me

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Fact: grandpa is disrespectfull towards you(and your dog.

he feeds turbo our food so now when we eat turbo puts his head on my lap or anyone else at the table--begging for food and i hate it

Fact:grandpa is creating a problem for your dog.

so i tied him in the kitchen where i can keep an eye on him while we would eat--

Fact :an undisserved punishment to your dog(removed out of the pack while eating)

and you know what he does!! he releases himself while he is tied up.

Fact: dog is rebelling against this treatement( can release himself out of
anger,frustration or even anxiety.

this is not a one time incident--it has happened like 6/7 times. and yes--i do walk him so its not like he NEEDS to go to the bathroom. he is such a rebel and i really need advice. i even thought of taking turbo to my brothers house until my grandparents leave--but

they are remodeling their entire house so i dont want to add stress to them--

Fact: no stress for them,you put the stress on your dog.

they do live 45 minutes away from me

helpppp!

thanksss

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No thanks at all

[Denise L.]

Maybe I am being a little over sensitive...but I am a little bit offended by the "crate your grandfather" comments. If it were a young person I would be rolling on floor the floor with all of you but...

My mom has Alzheimers Disease. I had the same issue with her feeding Cyrus from the table when I was caring for her at home. I couldn't crate him because mom would throw a temper tantrum. I guess I was lucky because Cyrus would only beg from mom, never from me or anyone else.

Mom is in a memory care home now and the behavior no longer exists.

With the great wisdom that comes in hindsight I realize my mom was exhibiting behaviors of her disease YEARS before the disease became unmanagable.

My point is, poor grandpa's brain may not be picking up on the importance.

Let's have a little compassion.

[Nina&Bill]

Another thought- but this all depends on how well trained Turbo is so it may not be feasible. When we first got Amber she was 2 and begged horribly. Part of her training was to have her by my side at a down/stay during meals (I'm not talking excessive amounts of time, maybe 10 minutes max). When she kept the down/stay for the entire amount of time she was rewarded with something yummy (not from the table but from my pocket). If you keep turbo in the down stay next to you and sit far from your Grandfather then he won't be able to slip Turbo any food.

We started doing this with Amber after 6 weeks of basic obedience so if Turbo has had that much training it could work for you. This way the dog isn't removed from it's family, is rewarded for acceptable behaviour & learns that lying quietly during meals is a "good" thing to do. This has worked very well with Amber. It was daunting at first but we handled it the same way you would handle the dog breaking any long/down stay, just gently put her back in position.

Good luck,

Nina

[Obelix]

[quote=Denise L.;808626]Maybe I am being a little over sensitive...but I am a little bit offended by the "crate your grandfather" comments. If it were a young person I would be rolling on floor the floor with all of you but...

My mom has Alzheimers Disease. I had the same issue with her feeding Cyrus from the table when I was caring for her at home. I couldn't crate him because mom would throw a temper tantrum. I guess I was lucky because Cyrus would only beg from mom, never from me or anyone else.

Mom is in a memory care home now and the behavior no longer exists.

With the great wisdom that comes in hindsight I realize my mom was exhibiting behaviors of her disease YEARS before the disease became unmanagable.

My point is, poor grandpa's brain may not be picking up on the importance.

Let's have a little compassion

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I guess you are right and I apologise for the harsch way I putted things to the point.But nevertheless it remains the owners responability to protect his dog against things provoced by the grandpa.With some imaginatoin one must be able to avoid confrontations between the dog and the granddad.

[Calin]

To solve the begging problem, I put my dog in a stay across the room. Periodically during the meal, I would get up and reward her with a small bite of something we were eating. She can't beg if she's laying down a few feet away, right?

I did this because like you, I had a lot of people who always want to give my baby tasty treats to 'bond' with her, but I also didn't want her to turn all annoying. So I figured if I let them feed her as long as they followed the rules, (I've found if you ask relatives, "Want to help me teach her something neat?" it goes over a little better) it would make both parties happy.

Now, whenever anyone sits at the table, Maddie lays down 5 feet away and tries to act as princess-y as possible.

YMMV, but it worked in my house. *shrugs*

[Denise L.]

[quote=Obelix;808710]

Originally Posted by Denise L.

Maybe I am being a little over sensitive...but I am a little bit offended by the "crate your grandfather" comments. If it were a young person I would be rolling on floor the floor with all of you but...

My mom has Alzheimers Disease. I had the same issue with her feeding Cyrus from the table when I was caring for her at home. I couldn't crate him because mom would throw a temper tantrum. I guess I was lucky because Cyrus would only beg from mom, never from me or anyone else.

Mom is in a memory care home now and the behavior no longer exists.

With the great wisdom that comes in hindsight I realize my mom was exhibiting behaviors of her disease YEARS before the disease became unmanagable.

.

I guess you are right and I apologise for the harsch way I putted things to the point.But nevertheless it remains the owners responability to protect his dog against things provoced by the grandpa.With some imaginatoin one must be able to avoid confrontations between the dog and the granddad.

I feel kind of like I know you from here and I know you didn't mean any harm...just doing my part to raise awareness

Believe me, I have friends who I have wanted to crate because they balked at respecting my rules regarding Cyrus.

I had to do a lot of protection work for Cyrus (and redirection for mom!) when I was caring for my mom. But my dog is older and is pretty well trained so for me it was easier. OP's dog is still very young, so it's tougher.