Looking after friends dog who won't stop mounting

[Pickle]

Hi everyone

Hope you can help. We are looking after our friends intact male rottie for the weekend, he is 16 months old. He is very good natured with very well trained.

The problem is, he will not leave our 13 month old rottie bitch alone, for the last 8 hours he has been constantly trying to mount her. We have used water, a bottle with stones to shake near him and physically removing him from her. Our bitch is very sweet natured but hasn't learnt to tell him NO. She seems to be getting a little stressed but I'm not sure if it's me making her feel this way as I keep trying to stop him and she might be thinking that she is doing something wrong.

I’m concerned as he is quite a bit heavier than her and I'm worried that he will damage her back with his weight. She is due to be spayed in 2 weeks.

The two dogs have known each other since they were puppies (they attend the same weekly obedience class) he has never shown this trait before, even when they have been out walking together.

Do you think this behavior will stop if we keep disciplining him or will we have this all weekend?

If you need anymore info please let me know.

Many thanks for all your help.

[Shelby427]

Keep them separated! The fact that you have an intact male with an unspayed female together...it's an accident waiting to happen! If you can't watch them, have the male leashed to you or separated from your bitch. You don't want an accidental litter!

And it's just plain rude. Humping is NOT tolerated in our house!

[jlaack]

He is very good natured with very well trained.

If this dog was very well trained (which I doubt he is) instead of watching him mount your female you could put him in a down which is completely incompatible with mounting. If I were sitting such a well trained dog that is what I would do unless I was otherwise actively engaged in doing something with the dog (fetch, walk, etc.). And/or every time the dog tried to mount my dog I would tell him OFF.

Since he probably wouldn't obey an hour long down I suggest you keep them separated, use a crate if you have too or call the owner to come get their dog.

[Pickle]

Hi there

Thanks for the advice. We did try taking him out for a walk to get rid of his energy. He had a 2 hr off leash run around. We tried ball but he would fetch and run straight back to our bitch.

We did tell him off every time, we tried verbal commands as well as noise distractions, water and ice, I never just watched him mount my bitch, he was removed away from her every time he got close. He is well trained but it seems that he has just discovered what he is supposed to do around bitches and it’s all new to him, he literally couldn't think of anything else, he couldn't relax and he never slept. We kept him in downs but as soon as he was released, he wanted to get near our bitch.

I couldn't keep them separated for the whole weekend, that would've been impossible with the layout of our property. I just didn’t know if he would stop if he was continually corrected. If he was mine, he would've been castrated a long time ago, but he is not.

I have boarded him at our local kennels, (I spoke with the owner first) I had to put my bitch first. It's a well respected kennels and I can get him throughout the day and spend time with him out on walks, playing etc (away from my girl) and on leash.

Thanks once again for the advice.

[Mavides]

Originally Posted by Pickle

She is due to be spayed in 2 weeks.

The two dogs have known each other since they were puppies (they attend the same weekly obedience class) he has never shown this trait before, even when they have been out walking together.

How close is your girl to coming into season? I would definitely keep them separated when you're not watching them VERY closely -- and as someone else said, a leash on the boy so he can learn to mind his manners is excellent advice. Be careful - as someone else said...an accidental litter is NOT something you want to deal with.

[Luvtails]

Another thought, could she be having a silent heat? Maybe the boy is telling you something. just a thought

[SABELLESMOM]

How utterly RUDE! Tell him "OFF!" and put him in an immediate down. IF, and I do say IF, he does a good down...it would be OK to reward him for listening. I say this because you will be substituting an appropriate behavior for an inappropriate one.

Yes, if you're not there, keep them separate. Give them both some extra activities. More walks, ball tosses in the yard, let them both enjoy and have fun.

Try to catch him before he mounts, and give him a stern "UH, AHH!!" Leashing him, may also become helpful if he isn't as well trained as you think. In which case, tug, as you say "Uh, ah!" or "No!"

[Pickle]

I must admit, I had never heard of a silent heat before. I have had a look on the forums but am not sure if this could be the case as it seems impossible to tell with the naked eye. She finished her season about 3 months ago, she was still very swollen for quite some time after but went back to normal size a month ago. I will keep a close eye on her though and also discuss it with our vet in a few weeks when we take her in (unless I notice anything different in her in which case we will go sooner).

For now, we have permanently separated them, after 11 hours of not giving in we admitted defeat and placed him in kennels (I got permission from the owner first), our bitch was getting very stressed with the attention and I couldn’t leave it any longer, I was unsure, if after all the corrections, he would ever stop.

I have seen him and walked him everyday (on his own) and he actually seems a lot happier where he is. At least he can relax and be a dog there, something I don't think he was ever going to be able to do here. He is eating as well which is good as he never relaxed enough to eat anything here.

I completely agree with you sabellesmom, it was utterly rude and a very upsetting situation for all of us, he really was relentless in his efforts. I do feel guilty that we could not keep him here but still being able to see him everyday and getting to spend quality time with him has been a much better situation for all…..thanks again everyone for all your help

[maddieandmason]

Originally Posted by Pickle

Hi everyone

Hope you can help. We are looking after our friends intact male rottie for the weekend, he is 16 months old. He is very good natured with very well trained.

The problem is, he will not leave our 13 month old rottie bitch alone, for the last 8 hours he has been constantly trying to mount her. We have used water, a bottle with stones to shake near him and physically removing him from her. Our bitch is very sweet natured but hasn't learnt to tell him NO. She seems to be getting a little stressed but I'm not sure if it's me making her feel this way as I keep trying to stop him and she might be thinking that she is doing something wrong.

I’m concerned as he is quite a bit heavier than her and I'm worried that he will damage her back with his weight. She is due to be spayed in 2 weeks.

The two dogs have known each other since they were puppies (they attend the same weekly obedience class) he has never shown this trait before, even when they have been out walking together.

Do you think this behavior will stop if we keep disciplining him or will we have this all weekend?

If you need anymore info please let me know.

Many thanks for all your help.

It can be a sign of dominance, maddie and mason do it to each other, and both of mine have been snipped, so its not a mating thing. :)