Adult Male Problems

[redneck woman]

I was looking for some advive. Me and my husband and family just recently got a 5 year old male german rotty. We also have a female rotty, and a female puppy, and also a female adult boxer. The promblem is that the male adult rotty (Pongo) has been an outside dog all his life, and we brought him inside for a bath, and to visit with us, and he does not wanna go back outside. The only way he will go outisde is if we put him with my other female rotty(Bell). Well the promblem is that he is not house trained, so he pees, in every corner of our house, over and over again. Now if I do end up dragging him outta the house, he will pee outside to, and also poop. My husband says he is just spraying, marking his territory, if that is so, is there any way to stop it? We have tried to put him outside for the night, but he is a big boy, about 175lbs, and he broke our gate, and sat on our porch and waited for us to wake up the next morning. Now he has had all kinds of obedience traing, with his previous owner, and he listens and all pretty well. Now another promblem I have is that he constantly "Mounts" my other female, now we expected that, we did want to breed them, but does he ever stop? I mean they went at it for 3 hours, up until I brought him inside, and left my female outside. I know this is kindof long, but any tips or anything woul;d be GREATLY appreciated!!! Thank You
Kerri & Bryan Hoplight

[RottiMomCT]

Hmmm....

Is Pongo neutered?? If not, get it done - he doesn't need 'em unless he's gonna be bred, and if he is, well, don't do it - he's too big for the standard and unless he's got the pedigree and titles to prove himself, he's not worthy just because he's a good looking nice dog. Sorry.

House breaking an adult dog is the same as housebreaking a puppy - be consistent, patient and take him out every 4-5 hours.

Crate him if he cannot be supervised 100% in the house.

Tether him to you or have him drag a leash so you can stop him from eliminating in the house - if you see him sniffing something, say "AH AHH!" to break the chain of thought and call him to you - PRAISE when he comes to you, then take him outside - PRAISE when he goes where he's supposed to go!

Peeing and pooping outside is WHERE THEY SHOULD GO...

WOW...175 pounds - thats a heavy dog - is he overwight or just REALLY tall? Wayyyy out of breed standard for a rottie.

What do youclean the urine up with?? Find a product especially for urine - Natures Miracle and Simple Solution are two products.

Is there a reason he has to live outside while the others are inside?? Is it because he's not house trained? If I were him I'd wanna stay inside too.

Can I ask why you took him in if you already have a puppy to deal with?? it would seem you now have two pups....just one that is REALLY big .

You said his previous owner said he had all kinds of training - but how much with YOU? YOU are his new owners so YOU need to take him to class to reiterate that fact to him.

[Karyn]

Why would you want to breed a way out of standard dog?

[theoriginalflyingl]

Originally Posted by redneck woman

Now another promblem I have is that he constantly "Mounts" my other female, now we expected that, we did want to breed them, but does he ever stop? I mean they went at it for 3 hours, up until I brought him inside, and left my female outside.

Dear god, why are you allowing this dog to breed with your female?? I would imagine if you were any kind of serious breeder you would have already done research and would have known what to expect when allowing dogs to copulate. I am sure many others here will also be wanting to know the reason behind this breeding. Do you even have the paperwork and titles to back these dogs up?

Also, how old is the female puppy? Is the male allowed around her unsupervised?? And the female boxer? Is she altered?

As for the rest of it, RottiMomCT has already given you the basics. Your classes should help too.

[poohbearsmom]

Originally Posted by redneck woman

I was looking for some advive. Me and my husband and family just recently got a 5 year old male german rotty. We also have a female rotty, and a female puppy, and also a female adult boxer. The promblem is that the male adult rotty (Pongo) has been an outside dog all his life, and we brought him inside for a bath, and to visit with us, and he does not wanna go back outside. The only way he will go outisde is if we put him with my other female rotty(Bell). Well the promblem is that he is not house trained, so he pees, in every corner of our house, over and over again. Now if I do end up dragging him outta the house, he will pee outside to, and also poop. My husband says he is just spraying, marking his territory, if that is so, is there any way to stop it? We have tried to put him outside for the night, but he is a big boy, about 175lbs, and he broke our gate, and sat on our porch and waited for us to wake up the next morning. Now he has had all kinds of obedience traing, with his previous owner, and he listens and all pretty well. Now another promblem I have is that he constantly "Mounts" my other female, now we expected that, we did want to breed them, but does he ever stop? I mean they went at it for 3 hours, up until I brought him inside, and left my female outside. I know this is kindof long, but any tips or anything woul;d be GREATLY appreciated!!! Thank You
Kerri & Bryan Hoplight

Your boy is either grossly overweight, or grossly over standard.

Sounds like he is grossly over ruling your home, as well.

Why did his previous owner release him to you?

My first suggestion would be for you to contact your local all breed club, and find a competent trainer to work with. He's mature, he's big, and it sounds as though he's moved into your life full steam, and you've been a bit blindsided.

You say he is trained. That's all fine and good, but he's not trained to you. Dogs don't generalize learning the way we do. So just because he responded to his previous handler, does not mean at all that he will listen to you, and do so respectfully. In other words, I can train your dog all day long, but unless YOU work with him, he'll only listen to me.

Next... unless your adult female is in season, then the humping is purely a dominant maneuver. Not sex, just bossiness... and just plain rude. If you're adult bitch IS in season, then I do hope you've done your homework in regards to pedigrees, heritable diseases/conditions, health tested your dogs, and at the very least KNOW that they are conformationally correct, as well as temperamentally. If you're new to the game, then chances are that none of this has been done.

Peeing in the house should NOT be tolerated, but you need to be careful (!!!), if he is indeed a very dominant boy, he might not take kindly to your corrections... I don't know how recently you've taken this boy in. He's displaying lots of dominant behaviors, so, I'd get a 700 sized crate for him, and start out by seeking a trainer in your area. Many dogs go through what we call a 'honeymoon' period when their environment is changed (new home, kennel, travel, whatever), and they will seem meek and mild for a bit until they see what the lay of the land is, and who's in charge..
Destructive behaviors can sure sour that new dog smell... But you need to realize that he is only the dog in the situation, and he cannot choose to behave well if he's not been taught by you what's expected.

It may well be that he is simply too much dog for your household. That's for you to decide. No shame ever in admitting defeat... it sure beats a bite. Regardless, finding a trainer should be your first priority... way more than breeding your dogs should be. Breeding is not for the faint of heart; any idiot can throw two dogs in the backyard and let 'em go at it....please don't be one of those kinds of people... people who truly care about the breed take the time to do things right.

I wish you well.