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Old 06-09-2005, 11:01 PM
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Talking Question on male/female attempted mating problem

Well Sarge tried again when the mix puppy came over again. He sniffs her galore and is very nosy with her. But friendly of course.
Now should I allow him to sniff her and if so how long?
What should I do when I allow them together and he pushes her over to sniff her?
Should it be a hard correction?
He sniffs her so much that she cannot move freely around my living room without his nose up her butt.
He will then corner her and start barking at her.. not a mean bark but just bark bark and shoves her a bit. She finally barks back at him and this gets a barking war going.
He did try to mount her again and I corrected hard, I grabbed his collar and yelled NO in a very firm voice and made him lie down for awhile.

But should there be a limit on how many times he shoves his nose up her butt? Or am I overreacting?
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:18 AM
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Any guestimates on how old she is? Is she intact? Is Sarge (sorry, I can't remember)?

I typically don't allow Xcel to be a nuisance to the girls. Banja will tell him off, Vikka won't, so I do. He gets yelled at for mounting and will cease without further correction.
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If a bitch is not in heat it’s not at all a question about mating.

Dogs say “Hello and Great each other” by sniffing and licking… and that’s it. A confident bitch will tell the male when enough is enough. If your dog doesn’t respect “ENOUGH”, YOU have to tech him where the limits are.

From you post I don’t understand if the pup’s owner was around… but if I were her owner I would tell you, to leash your bully dog and keep it away from my pup.

NO pup, female or male gains confidence (but contrary) being cornered and mounted by more mature or dominating pups or adults.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:10 PM
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She is ten weeks old so I highly doubt she is in heat. Yes the owner is with us, at all times, . Sarge is a lil over a yr neutered. Neutered at 6 months.
She barks at him and then that is when I come in and correct severe with my loud thundering No Leave Her and walk him away.
I then placed him in a down stay and made him watch.

So I am taking a couple minutes hello then move on..correct?
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She is ten weeks old so I highly doubt she is in heat. Yes the owner is with us, at all times, . Sarge is a lil over a yr neutered. Neutered at 6 months.
She barks at him and then that is when I come in and correct severe with my loud thundering No Leave Her and walk him away.
I then placed him in a down stay and made him watch.

So I am taking a couple minutes hello then move on..correct?
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He sniffs her galore and is very nosy with her.

What should I do when I allow them together and he pushes her over to sniff her?

He sniffs her so much that she cannot move freely around my living room without his nose up her butt.

He will then corner her and start barking at her

He did try to mount her again
Sorry but I think it's high time to teach your dog manners (even he is neutered) and again be happy it's NOT my pup he is treating soooooooooooooo
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:29 PM
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She may well have either a UTI or puppy vaginitis and that could be why he's overly interested in her.

I also agree with Damp, I think he needs to learn to play easy with young puppies.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:36 PM
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Oh I agree he needs manners. I am not fighting that. I just wanted to make sure I was correct in correcting him. Now I knew to correct for the humping but was unsure about the sniffing.
Now you suggested he needs to play easy with the pups will my continuing of correcting help this?
When I correct I grab his collar and yank him beside me and yell No Leave Her. And then I place him in a down stay. He stays for ohhhh 10 minutes the first time and then for good the second one.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:46 PM
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She is ten weeks old so I highly doubt she is in heat. Yes the owner is with us, at all times, . Sarge is a lil over a yr neutered. Neutered at 6 months.
She barks at him and then that is when I come in and correct severe with my loud thundering No Leave Her and walk him away.
I then placed him in a down stay and made him watch.

So I am taking a couple minutes hello then move on..correct?
Firstly, I wouldn't allow my 10 week old puppy to just be put in with an older dog.... that's like being thrown to the wolves, in a manner of speaking.

Secondly, I wouldn't allow my 10 week old puppy to just be put in with other dogs, as the puppy is still in a very critical stage of development, in which it is most capable of bonding - whether that be intraspecies, or interspecies. My puppy would be meeting PEOPLE at this age, with only very minimal and casual contact with dogs; like a stroll around the block, leashed and situation under control.

I can understand a quickie obedience behavior or two if he's gotten out of hand... but.... Why on earth would you make him "watch" ???? This is sure to increase his frustration, which is simply not fair to do to him.... I think it'd be better for both dogs if the situation was controlled by the humans, and not make more chaotic... "Thundering, severe correction" ... please... he did what any self respecting dog would do when not under control of his owner.... Why not simply speak to him in a conversational voice, and put him up when enough is enough???? Why do people think dogs are hard of hearing?

Your dog was not attempting to mate, he was attempting to meet... and likely assert a little dominance over this sweet young thing that came to call on him. That's not fair to the puppy, and it's not fair to your dog to end up yelling at him for a perfectly natural behavior that he doesn't understand is wrong. If the situation had been controlled and planned out, you wouldn't have had to lose your cool with your dog.
A correction should be received for rude behavior, however, if the situation is not controlled, what is the dog really learning?
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:16 PM
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Since this pup is nearby we thought it would be best for her to meet with my dogs. We are in the room with them, shut off in the living room and we are on the floor too.
Her and sammie play great together, and Dakota does fine with her. Just Sarge has tried to hump her twice now.
She is being socialized with ppl too and is quite friendly, not overly either.

I placed Sarge in a down stay when he refused to listen to me. Leave Her means leave her alone. Also he is not totally ignored cuz I have him beside me on a leash and I may pet him or brush him but he cannot play with the pup.

It is just mind boggling since Sarge does not nor has he done this to other pups, including Sammie or other female pups. And he has met a few one was loose and they played together in the yard until the owner came running up for this pup.
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