How to get them to get along or respect each other? (if possible)

[maguirre]

We have 14 dogs and 8 cats.

Of those, I have 3 dogs at my place:
Toshka, f, boxer, fawn, 1 1/2y
Mara, f, rottweiler, 10m
Ali, f, boxer, white, 7m. T
hey all get along great. And they adore my 3 cats.

The rest of the dogs and cats are at my boyfriends. Aside from the 5 cats (all rescues as mine) we have the following dogs;
Greta, f, rottweiler, 7y
Norka, f, rottweiler, 7y
Quino, m, rottweiler, 6y
Enzo, m, rottweiler, 6y
Ania, f, rottwieler, 4y
Hella, f, rottweiler, 4y
Dyron, m, rottweiler, 2y
Jordan, m, amercian pit bull terrier, white, 5y, street rescue, deaf
Kenny, f, mix, 1y, street rescue
Brownie, f, mix, 1y, street rescue
Gizmo, m, french poodle, gray, 13y, street rescue (he was thrown from a moving vehicle on a very busy main street and almost died)

We have proper places for them. Huge fenced areas.

The problem is when we go out for walks.

Norka and Greta get along fine, same as Ania and Hella, but don´t mix and match cause you´re in for trouble. When my boyfriend is there, they all get along, it is very clear for them who the alpha is.

Males and females get along fine too.

We never put the rotties with the french or the mixes.

And we are taking it very slow ith Jordan because we have only had him for about a month and we do not know how he´ll react. Under suppervision he has done great, no aggressive behavior whatsoever, but we don´t leave them unsupervided for obvious reasons. In this time we have noticed that he was used in dog fights, he has terrible scars and markings and also he was abused. He doesn´t play because when you put your arms up to throw a ball or a bottle he will go into a down position and whince. He breaks my heart becase after all and his breed´s bad reputation (which we have chosen to ignore) that he is the sweetest thing. He lives for a tender hand and loves to just be with you. And deaf the poor thing. We are working on was to help him. Suggestions?

Our biggest problem is the males, Dyron cares of nothing but playing, eating and sleeping, he hasn´t matured. But Quino and Enzo... well, they hate each other. You can´t pass by one of the cages with the other one cause they´ll charge towards the fence and growl and bark and litteraly go crazy. We had a bitting incident at a show last tuesday. I was giving an OB demostration with Quino and my boyfriend was close by talking to some people with Enzo. Quino waited until I gave him the Down command and he had more lead to leap and bite Enzo, who responded with rage. We had a very hard time pulling them apart. Thankfully they were not hurt.

I wonder if there is something we can do to make them tolerate each other. I don´t expect them to like each other or be togehter, just respect each others space and physical integrity.

In case anyone is going to have a heart attack with the number of dogs I thought I´d add my boyfirend is a well respected breeder with 12 years of experience. He is licenced by the FCM (Federacion Canofila Mexicana) and founder and work-event coordinator of the Club Rottweiler Nuevo Leon. So he knows what he is doing.

He says that because they are males and Quino knows that Enzo is the dominating one, it is normal for him to challange his place. I just wish there was a way to go out on walks and not have to be so worried all the time.

Any ideas or suggestions are very welcome.

[RottiMomCT]

More training, more trainig and more training.....NILIF (do a search here for what that means) and DO NOT ever let those two near each other. Are they both intact??

Personally, I think you've got your hands way too full with all these dogs and cats. You've got three females at your place all within 7 months in age of each other, regardless of how they get along now, things may change.

Of all of the dogs you are responsible for, how many are spayed or neutered?

You've got 14 dogs and 8 cats...tell me you're not breeding them all??!!

[Judi W]

As the youngers become adults you will see more problems so it is a matter of proper management and being wise enough to know who what when and where.

If you are going to give a demonstration for the public, use a dog that is well enough trained and socialized to represent the breed and training in a good light. All you ended up demonstrating is that you have little control and that your dogs behave in a vicious manner. Hardly something you want to show the public.

[SonnyRott]

Originally Posted by maguirre

We have 14 dogs and 8 cats.....

I was giving an OB demostration with Quino and my boyfriend was close by talking to some people with Enzo. Quino waited until I gave him the Down command and he had more lead to leap and bite Enzo, who responded with rage. We had a very hard time pulling them apart.....

In case anyone is going to have a heart attack with the number of dogs I thought I´d add my boyfirend is a well respected breeder with 12 years of experience. He is licenced by the FCM (Federacion Canofila Mexicana) and founder and work-event coordinator of the Club Rottweiler Nuevo Leon. So he knows what he is doing. Any ideas or suggestions are very welcome.

The obvious suggestion is to not walk/train these dogs together. They won't miss each other's company. With so many dogs you must be rotating time and training anyway.

If I was the one being given the OB demonstration and witnessed this fight, I would likely have concerns. Thankfully, no one was hurt.

[BostonRott]

Just as many people can't stand each other, so too dogs. I don't think you'll ever get them to the point of tolerance, you need to simply keep them apart for life. If you know that they don't get along, DO NOT take them to demonstrations together.

Also, the 3 females you have are all young females of working breeds. They may get along now, but be ready for problems in the future and have a way to absolutely separate them.

I do not see any reason to try to force dogs to get along. If they don't, you must deal with it. Either separate them pernamently or place them.

[poohbearsmom]

We have 14 dogs and 8 cats.

Wow. That's a lot.

I wonder if there is something we can do to make them tolerate each other. I don´t expect them to like each other or be togehter, just respect each others space and physical integrity.

No.

[damp]

With so many animals… a WHOLE Zoo… I would think, there would not be much time for walking or anything else but feeding, cleaning and training 24/7. Good strong cages to keep the animals inside and safe and be sure no one is missed when you do the “counting” before you go to bed.

[maguirre]

Originally Posted by RottiMomCT

More training, more trainig and more training.....NILIF (do a search here for what that means) and DO NOT ever let those two near each other. Are they both intact??

Personally, I think you've got your hands way too full with all these dogs and cats. You've got three females at your place all within 7 months in age of each other, regardless of how they get along now, things may change.

Of all of the dogs you are responsible for, how many are spayed or neutered?

You've got 14 dogs and 8 cats...tell me you're not breeding them all??!!

OF COURSE WE DON´T! My boyfriend only breeds rottweilers. Everyone else is neutered. All my females are neutered and 2 of my boyfriends female rotts (greta and norka) are also neutered. And yes, my boyfriend´s males are intact.

[maguirre]

Thanks everyone. We will not force the dogs to get along. And yes we do have a zoo if you include our 3 iguanas, 3 hamsters, 2 rats, 2 frogs, 2 turtles and a python. It is a lot of work as someone said, but well worth it. We do work with our animals 24/7, but we love it!

[Hillside]

I have nothing good to add, but maybe the Rottweilers and the Poodle don't get along because they have some bias about other breeds from thier own country of origin? Ok, I'm just kidding and tying to give everybody a laugh.

[Judi W]

Since your BF is a breeder and owns so many dogs and knows those dogs, I would think that he has the answers to these questions and that you would by guided by him. After all, he is on site and carries the responsibilities and understands the individuals involved.