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__________________ Jory ~~~ Loving life with Steinplatz Callisto Bailey, PCD, CD, CGN, TT |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? I don't even take drugs for me, I wouldn't give them to my puppy! I don't think ANY drug has been out there long enough to know what damage it causes.
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? Quote:
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__________________ Jory ~~~ Loving life with Steinplatz Callisto Bailey, PCD, CD, CGN, TT |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? Someone posted this a while back and tried it. You may want to do a search but if I remember correctly it did not help with the anxiety issues her dog was having. I do believe certain things can help calm a dog. I believe someone used the wrap thingy and had good results but with these plug in things I tend to believe it is a waste of money. Quote:
__________________ Melissa It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC) |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? I knew I had put my 2 cents in on this one before....... Here is the link: http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/sho...t=comfort+zone
__________________ Melissa It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC) |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? Try Febreeze instead. ![]() |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? The day I got Teazle at 7 1/2 weeks I started to come down with something. I was very poorly and had this tiny puppy to look after on my own. The first night I was so exhausted I let her sleep with me and also I thought it would be more comforting since it was the first night without her siblings. Second night she would have to sleep in her crate. I put her in the crate several times during the day with treats and often sat and played with her. Sometimes I left her as she had to get used to it. She hated it and howled all the time, but I had to ignore her protests. For the following 2 nights she howled, cried, barked, and whimpered for what seemed all of the night, going quiet for maybe 10 mins at a time. I hadn't slept and was so weak. I had one of these DAP (dog appeasing pheremones) plug in things for bonfire night when my previous rottie was ill, so I plugged it in the same room as Teazle's crate. I don't regret it one bit. Each time I left her in her crate she quickly settled down and at night she cried for 5 minutes and then slept all the way though until 6.00am. The transformation was wonderful. I only switched it on 1/2 hour before bed time, and if I was going to leave her for an hour or so. Then it was switched off when she came out. She has always slept right through night time and never had a potty accident. I weaned her off the DAP after a month and we have never looked back. I know people will poo poo this and say I was wrong to use it, but I was desperate and Teazle has not suffered any ill effects.
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? My sister has one that she uses when there is a thunderstorm coming. It's either that or sedatives as her Corgi gets very very stressed out, won't stay still and gets a bit nippy if you try to interact with her. I've seen her act out before my sister got the DAP device, and was there recently after she had been using it a while and it works. She crates Annie in the bathroom with a fan running, lights on and the DAP plugged in. Maybe it's the small room that helps the device work, but if I had anything other than an anxiety issue, I'd be seeking a trainer, NOT a plug in device!! |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? [quote=JaniceH] The transformation was wonderful. I only switched it on 1/2 hour before bed time, and if I was going to leave her for an hour or so. Then it was switched off when she came out. She has always slept right through night time and never had a potty accident. I weaned her off the DAP after a month and we have never looked back. QUOTE] Europeans are SO much more open minded about natural remedies, they have been using them for centuries. I am so glad you wrote about your experience using DAP because it makes sense that it would have a calming effect and it's using something so instinctive to the puppy. I wish more people on this continent would be open minded enough to try natural solutions, working with the animal's own physiology instead of masking problem areas or using drugs. According to the information I have read on this product, it is equally useful in calming adult dogs as well. It seems to me it would be very useful for things like separation anxiety and other behavioral difficulties.
__________________ Jory ~~~ Loving life with Steinplatz Callisto Bailey, PCD, CD, CGN, TT |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? Luka, my adult dog, was 8 years old. She had major surgery a week before bonfire night (not that you would have guessed unless you looked at her) and would always get agitated with the fireworks. I had previously used an ACP tablet (mild sedative) but I wasn't keen on them and they didn't really help her that much. It was my vet who introduced me to the DAP. I was very comfortable with this remedy because of it's natural qualities. I followed the instructions and on the actual night she barked a couple of times but that was all. She wasn't even bothered at midnight when big fireworks seemed to go off. I am not saying every dog will react in the same way, but it certainly did for mine.
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? Well with stuff like this I tend to lean towards not wanting to throw my money away on something that only a "FEW" people swear by but on the flip side of the coin it is one of those things that may not help but it sure won't hurt so if you don't mind spending the money on it go for it. That way maybe after a few years more people would have tried it and we will have a better idea if it really works. The only way I could see it being a total negative is if one tries to replace actual training with the hopes this is a cure all......... ![]()
__________________ Melissa It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC) |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? Quote:
I would certainly consider DAP...I am already using a homeopathic remedy by Natrio Bio called Emotional Relief on my Maggie who is a nervous and sometimes fearful girl. I use behaviour modification on her as well, but what the remedy appears to do is it calms her, so she can stay or switch back to social mode and take instructions easier. Even if she switches into defense mode, she switches back faster using this remedy. In keeping her calmer, she has more time to think before reacting..it has also helped with her relationship with Bailey. It does not tranqualize her in anyway, actually, she is also much more playful and just all round happier...lots of big , wide Rottie smiles, where there used to be so much worry in her face most of the time. It's liquid drops, given only once a day, first thing in the morning now..when starting for the first two weeks, it was given two or three times a day. This remedy costs about $8.00 a month..pretty inexpensive and thus far, very effective. Even the DAP, which is advertised for about $30 for a month's supply (a $1 a day) is a small price to pay to relieve anxiety and stress in a dog and it's owner.
__________________ Jory ~~~ Loving life with Steinplatz Callisto Bailey, PCD, CD, CGN, TT |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? I personally believe that drugs aren't the answer to any problem unless it's a physical one such as kidney disease, etc. We have become a "quick fix" society where rather than work out a solution, we are told to mask it with a pill. Dog's ( nd humans for that matter) did just fine for centuries without quick fixes. This doggie drug is nothing more than a gimmick to make money at the expense of animals. |
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| i had a mate who bought a "get women quick pheromone"... he's still single good old fashioned training works best... u dont want ur dog getting emotionally hooked on a scent that costs $15 a wiff |
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| Re: Dog appeasing pheronome..anyone heard of or tried this ? Some dogs are simply not equipped to live in a normal environment and training cannot change the "hard wiring" they were born with. Whether it is doggy prozac, scents that fool the dog, or remedies that allow the dog to manage its enviornment a bit better, then fine. I do not differentiate between any of them. It is still artifically influencing the dog's behavior and response to the environment and one is no more a drug than any of the others. If any of that allows the dog to keep its home then use it. Just please never ever breed such an animal. |
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