Update on Our Dog...

[tinarie01]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to update those of you who were so kind as to respond to my previous post. Well, yesterday we took Rocky to Man's Best Friend and had our consulation.

We are really excited about getting started with Training. And we are taking the advice of not only all you guys on this board, as well as our dog trainer, and are moving Rocky inside.

It won't be a drastic move however, he will begin sleeping in a crate a few nights a week before he starts the program, so that he's used to being inside the house again. Then he'll go for 14 days, and then come back home.

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone here for all the helpful information!

[Burnsway]

You are sending him away to be trained?

[TrinityRun]

I'm almost afraid to ask what kind of training he's going to be getting in a crash-course 14 dy period.

He will barely be acclimated to being in a new surrounding in that timeframe.

[Judy Chrusch]

Please don't send him away for training, 2 reasons, you have to be trained too and you have no clue what they will do without you their . You have to know what they do so you can follow through at home. Please reconsider and go where their are other dogs and you can be a part of it as well. We need the training just as much as them, even more so. Give this somemore thought PLEASE!!!

Judy

[Carina43]

Ditto what the others say - sending a dog away to be trained really won't accomplish that much. Plus isn't it awfully expensive? An 8 week basic obedience couse for you and your dog shouldn't cost more than $100, and you BOTH will learn a whole lot more. Plus, they are fun!

I think it is great that you are willing to learn and work with your dog though, MAJOR kudos for that. We all have to start learning somewhere, it's the dumb ones who never learn and change. :)

[tinarie01]

No,

I think that this will be good for our dog. He will be going to Man's best friend. The reason why they board him for 14 days is because they are going to teach him Family Protection as well as obedience. My brother and Sister in law have sent both of their dogs through Man's Best Friend and have become very good friends with their trainer. I trust him completely, and would never send my dog to a place that I did not have this level of confidence with. This is what they do for a living. I trust that. We will be going to class "alongside" of Rocky at night. That way we also are being "trained" as the same way that he is. They do not use treats as a form of praise either, which I like. I don't think you should have to give your dog a treat everytime you want him to sit or to stay. They use words and actions as a form of praise.

Trust me, I have done my research, and I have thought about this. And yes it is high dollar, but really feel confident in their program.

[Burnsway]

Originally posted by tinarie01
No,

I think that this will be good for our dog. He will be going to Man's best friend. The reason why they board him for 14 days is because they are going to teach him Family Protection as well as obedience. .

In 14 days.........

[TrinityRun]

Originally posted by tinarie01
Trust me, I have done my research, and I have thought about this. And yes it is high dollar, but really feel confident in their program.

If you had done thorough/proper research you would already know why this is such a bad move.

You can't teach protection training in 2 weeks. Use your head. And I don't care how great you think your siblings dogs are, crash couse training of dogs for protection work is dangerous and stupid.

Do you have any idea what they are going to do to your dog? I'll lay odds they don't tell you the grit of it but I've seen this kind of training before and it ain't pretty.

You are making a very big mistake.

[Rott-Wiley]

I sincerely hope that you reconsider your actions here. Basically what you are doing is sending your dog to what is known as "Boot Camp" for dogs. Would you want to go to a place known as Boot Camp? Some dogs (only the strongest and best of temperment)will make it thru that tramatic experience! Is that what you want to take the chance on?

Sombody sold you a bill of goods and you're buying into it.

[Burnsway]

Oh this is scarey since a lot of the dogs he is selling through his site land my area code.........

They may be good trainers that I couldn't say but everyone he seems to be selling for have dogs that have been trained through his school. And most of them are labs, shepherds and Dobes.......:( And lots of notes next to them as being child or dog aggressive.

I thought I had heard the name Mans Best Friend before.



tinarie01 I to think your making a big mistake......:(

[spidey]

They do not use treats as a form of praise either, which I like. I don't think you should have to give your dog a treat everytime you want him to sit or to stay. They use words and actions as a form of praise.

If you had done your research, you would understand what treat-based training is all about as well - treats are just one way to get the desired behaviour, no dog who's been trained properly with treats needs a treat after the behaviour has been learned. The above misconception is based on inaccurate information. Not everyone has to use treats, they are not the only method, but you are just completely wrong in your assessment above. At least understand what it is you're deciding for or against. If your understanding of what this trainer does is as deep as your understanding of what correct treat training is, then I strongly suggest that you haven't done enough research.

I have to agree with everyone else. This is a big mistake. Training is good, sending away for training is bad, and anywhere that claims it does "protection training" in 14 days is a place to run away from. Please do a bit more research, do some looking here. This could absolutely ruin your relationship with your dog. Please reconsider. You need weekly obedience classes, based on positive reinforcement, that you and your dog attend. Sending a dog away for training is not the right thing to do.

[TrinityRun]

Feeding weenies isn't used in teaching your dog "home protection."

This should be another red flag to you.

Another red flag? People telling you it's a bad idea.

[Burnsway]

Originally posted by tinarie01
My brother and Sister in law have sent both of their dogs through Man's Best Friend and have become very good friends with their trainer

Which trainer???????? He has 8 locations spread between Dallas and Houston. Do you know the name of the trainer that will be working with your dog. What kind of background does the trainer working with your dog have. Whats his name?

And on another note who in the hell Protection trains a Dobe then turns around and sells him as a protection trained dog when the dog just turned one.........:(

I have looked his site over good and all kinds of red flags are slapping me in the face and I didn't realize he has 2 Houston locations.......:(

[Greg_1111]

Carina is so right. most of the time she is lol,, but that's the benefit of this kind of forum. You get to hear opinions from people that have lot's of experience and knowledge, and with nothing to gain but to share that knowledge. I'm no expert, but In my opinion, the only way to train your pup is to invest in personal time, hard work, and lot's of patience. That's the kind of bond you want anyhow. there isn't any magic pill or 14 day course that will accomplish that, it's impossible. And I'm just talking about the basics too. Training is a gradual exercise, and each session builds on the previous one. Those sessions are with you and your dog, and they should included learning as well as fun, but they have to include you. As far as having someone to teach it family protection or instill a sense of loyalty in it for you,, i guarantee that won't happen. But that's another topic completely, and gets into lots of other sub topics such as....what was the reason for getting a rottie, etc. I reccomend that you get into the "boot camp" thing. read the inormation and start applying it. Now is the best time, and it really works. good luck :)

[Burnsway]

tinarie01


Run a BBB check on all his locations, I did........;)

Then ask yourself if you would send your child to a boarding school with the same kind of reports......;)


Stepping off my soapbox and heading to the lake to work with my own dog....