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| LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions
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MaddoxsMom
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02-02-2008, 12:30 PM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions My vet attempted to give this to my dog, and i flat refused, there is really no need for it. It is strange, there are posters all over his clinic warning owners to get this shot, I expect with the heavy pushing of it, he is getting a nice little incentive from the drug company. |
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#2
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Kris Christine
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02-02-2008, 02:37 PM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions Veterinary trade publications have frankly addressed the issue of the link between vaccines and income. For instance, in an August 2004 cover story in Veterinary Economics entitled Targeting Changing Vaccine Protocols by Roger F. Cummings, they state that: "In the 1970s and ’80s many veterinarians derived a substantial percent of their total incomes from vaccinating dogs and cats. .....And in many practices today, the vaccination reminder is the one thing that drives visits from healthy pets. So changing your vaccine protocols could have a significant affect on practice finances." Dr. Alice Wolf, Professor of Small Animal Internal Medicine at Texas A&M College of Veterinary Medicine, stated in an address (Vaccines of the Present and Future WSAVA 2001 - Vaccines of the Present and Future) at the 2001 World Small Animal Veterinary Association World Congress that: “some veterinarians use the recommendation for vaccinations as a way to ensure client visits for yearly examinations and, least appropriate, as a ‘profit center.’” In an October 1, 2002 DVM Newsletter article entitled, AVMA, AAHA to Release Vaccine Positions, AVMA, AAHA to release vaccine positions - DVM, Jennifer Fiala reports, "The statement stresses AVMA's stance on education, a reduction in the profession's dependence on vaccine sales, which account for a significant portion of practice income, ..........Veterinarians must promote the value of the exam and move away from their dependence on vaccine income. " DVM's July 1, 2003 article, Developing Common Sense Strategies for Fiscal Responsibility Developing common sense strategies for fiscal responsibility - Using an interactive template to plan service protocol changes - DVM declares that, "The purpose of this article is to focus on the third of these essential cornerstones: the economic realities of protocol changes, and how medical and surgical standards including reduced frequency of vaccination can be compatible with financial viability; and, yes, even success. ........For a real eye-opener of potential revenue loss, research practice records for the most recent 12 months of client activity to determine the estimated number of adult canine patients that were seen for annual vaccinations. Multiply this number times the revenue loss calculated above on an individual patient basis to determine the total potential lost income. " If anyone would like copies of the American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines, the 1992 French challenge study demonstrating that dogs were immune to a rabies challenge 5 years after vaccination, the 2003 Italian study documenting fibrosarcomas at the presumed injection sites of rabies vaccines in dogs, as well as Dr. W. Jean Dodds' papers on vaccinal adverse reactions, please e-mail me at ledgespring@lincoln.midcoast.com. |
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#3
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Kris Christine
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02-02-2008, 03:27 PM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions Veterinary trade publications have frankly addressed the issue of the link between vaccines and income. For instance, in an August 2004 cover story in Veterinary Economics entitled Targeting Changing Vaccine Protocols by Roger F. Cummings, they state that: "In the 1970s and ’80s many veterinarians derived a substantial percent of their total incomes from vaccinating dogs and cats. .....And in many practices today, the vaccination reminder is the one thing that drives visits from healthy pets. So changing your vaccine protocols could have a significant affect on practice finances." Dr. Alice Wolf, Professor of Small Animal Internal Medicine at Texas A&M College of Veterinary Medicine, stated in an address (Vaccines of the Present and Future WSAVA 2001 - Vaccines of the Present and Future) at the 2001 World Small Animal Veterinary Association World Congress that: “some veterinarians use the recommendation for vaccinations as a way to ensure client visits for yearly examinations and, least appropriate, as a ‘profit center.’” In an October 1, 2002 DVM Newsletter article entitled, AVMA, AAHA to Release Vaccine Positions, AVMA, AAHA to release vaccine positions - DVM, Jennifer Fiala reports, "The statement stresses AVMA's stance on education, a reduction in the profession's dependence on vaccine sales, which account for a significant portion of practice income, ..........Veterinarians must promote the value of the exam and move away from their dependence on vaccine income. " DVM's July 1, 2003 article, Developing Common Sense Strategies for Fiscal Responsibility Developing common sense strategies for fiscal responsibility - Using an interactive template to plan service protocol changes - DVM declares that, "The purpose of this article is to focus on the third of these essential cornerstones: the economic realities of protocol changes, and how medical and surgical standards including reduced frequency of vaccination can be compatible with financial viability; and, yes, even success. ........For a real eye-opener of potential revenue loss, research practice records for the most recent 12 months of client activity to determine the estimated number of adult canine patients that were seen for annual vaccinations. Multiply this number times the revenue loss calculated above on an individual patient basis to determine the total potential lost income. " From a July 1, 2003 [B]DVM article entitled, What Do We Tell Our Clients? , 'What do we tell our clients?' - Developing thorough plan to educate staff on changing vaccine protocols essential for maintaining solid relationships with clients and ensuring quality care - DVM, "It has finally happened. The American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) has released canine vaccine guidelines. Some practitioners may dread it and consider the recommendations as a 'practice buster.' ......The concern of course is the loss of our 'vaccine hook.' " If anyone would like copies of the American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines, the 1992 French challenge study demonstrating that dogs were immune to a rabies challenge 5 years after vaccination, the 2003 Italian study documenting fibrosarcomas at the presumed injection sites of rabies vaccines in dogs, as well as Dr. W. Jean Dodds' papers on vaccinal adverse reactions, please e-mail me at ledgespring@lincoln.midcoast.com. |
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#4
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trish603a
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02-02-2008, 06:47 PM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions i have been going to the same vet for 3 years now, for everything from ear infections to yearly shots, and just normal weight checks. well this year she has a new vet on staff who was about to inject one of my girls with this vaccine WITHOUT asking me. i always ask what shots and stuff they will be receiving because they do not receive the kennel cough vaccination either. well she said it was all her yearly shots with this drug included. i told her nope, not going to happen. i had never heard of it. she got an attitude and said well we will have to get another needle then and that she would "highly recommend" me giving my dog this. i said do what you have to do...but you are NOT giving my dog something i do not know about, nor have i researched. i then proceeded to tell the front desk that is to be notated that both my girls are not to see that vet again, nor are the to get this vaccine. |
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#5
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FilosFolks
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02-03-2008, 03:00 PM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions I am ignorant about this vaccine. It is an option (at least they mentioned that to me this time  ) with our next round of boosters for Lexi. My other dog received this (without even asking) during his third and fourth booster... I am interested to see what others have to say and will read up before that appt. Also, do others on RDN vaccinate yearly?? Ailee, Fylo, & Lexi Marie |
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#6
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dnkayser
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05-03-2008, 05:23 AM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions I don't know if the lepto vaccine is harmful or not, I can't address that. I do know what a horrible and devastating disease lepto is. I lost my wonderful 7 yo rottie boy to leptospirosis in January of '04. There was an outbreak of it in western Washington in December, probably facilitated by the record rainfall that month, since lepto lives longest on wet ground. At least that's what my vet told me. She also told me that even if you do vaccinate, your dog may not be protected because all of the strains aren't covered by the vaccine. Kela was in intensive care for 8 days at a top notch facility, at the cost of 1000.00 per day. I tried so hard to save him, but in the end had to let him go. Lepto is a horrible disease, and if contracted, the chances of curing it aren't that good. Kela was in excellent health, and I got him to an excellent facility fairly early. Kela was not vaccinated for leptospirosis... and I will always wonder, for the rest of my life... what if he had been? Could I have spared my precious boy that horrible end? You can be sure my new rottie pup will be vaccinated. Donna and Keli |
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#7
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moondog
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05-03-2008, 11:36 AM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions Quote:
The decision for use/non-use of vaccines always needs to be thoughtfully considered. There are advantages and disadvantages on both sides, the measure of which for a particular dog living in a particular environment needs to be weighed in order to make the best decisions we can regarding vaccines. In a "wet" state such as Washington, I'd think the presence of Lepto would be greater than in a drier environment and vaccinating may be safer than not, but only if the strain present is covered by the vaccine. You may be able to find out the incidence and strains causing infection in your area by contacting local agencies, the CDC, and even vet's offices to find out more so you can have more confidence in your decision on vaccinating vs. not vaccinating. There's no doubt you tried to make the best decision you could for the dog you loved, so don't second guess yourself too much. | |
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#8
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jrc87
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06-30-2008, 01:01 PM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions This should definitely be at the discretion of the owner. Since both of our boys are in 4-H and one is a registered therapy dog, however, we were required to get this vaccine. Considering, however, that we live on a farm with a pond, a creek, a spring and several stagnated areas, I would get it, regardless. Education is the answer on this one, I think. |
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#9
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Tri-Star
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10-12-2008, 09:58 PM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions I gave my dog this vaccine and he had a reaction to it. Got lethargic and broke out in hives. I rushed him to the vet. The reaction didnt get any worse than hives so he ended up getting benedryl for a few days. I only gave it to him as a neighbors dog got lepto and died a week ago. The Vet said his reaction can be worse the next time I gave it to him, and to give it to him in the parking lot or let him give the shot. There wont be a next time as my dog doesn't wander around. |
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#10
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Ayoka
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10-12-2008, 10:38 PM
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| Re: LEPTOSPIRA VACCINE--Adverse Reactions We do not vaccinate yearly and have vaccinated Lepto as we were thinking about doing therapy work and lepto was a required shot. In the end, I couldn't commit the time and we haven't had lepto done since. If I had a dog that was outdoors frequently, like a working gun dog, I "might" consider it. My vet and I both believe that the best defence against disease is a healthy immune system which I try to promote through good diet, exercise and a few natural supplements. |
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