WD you're too cute, wow, you agreed with what I said, cooool, we agree at last,LOL:D :D. All kidding aside, you know I agree with most of what you say,LOL and really respect EVERYTHING you say! Anyone who takes your advice can't go wrong, you and JudiW. are the BOMB!!!! Sorry not the best choice of words their

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As far as the treats I say use them as long as you need too, no big deal IMO, sure beats getting frustrated and taking it out on the dog, as some do

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angellove, your girl is still young, continue to use treats but if you can every other time or every two times. I'm bad some times, I put my fingers a certain way where Czar thinks I ALWAYS have something for him but he doesn't always get it, my point is they don't know when you have one and when you don't so eventually they'll listen each time, maybe

hoping to get a treat:D. Just make sure your treat is a nutritious one and not junk and for your real special training, have that real special treat :D. Get to know your dog and what works for you :D.