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Old 01-23-2002, 11:05 AM
cinde33 cinde33 is offline
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Thanks for your responses, guys.

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Is there a reason why you're "asking" or "bribing" your dog to move the bloody hell out of your way; or go into another room???? Are you afraid of your dog??? Does he have aggression problems?????


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How about......take him by his collar and MOVE HIM
Like I said, I can't. He pulls back with such a strength, I'm not kidding! I seriously can't physically move him and he could care less if he's being choked. I'm not afraid of Max at all. He had food aggression problems when he was a pup, but hasn't displayed that behavior for some time now. He just "acts stubborn" and won't move. I try not to "bribe" and I don't "ask"- I command, I tell, but he just looks at me. I can prod him, pull him, try to pick him up (can't) push his behind with my foot to get him going and he just lays glued to the floor. I quit doing the bribe and picked up all of his toys and went in the other room and ignored him for a few moments. He got up all happy-go-lucky and we tried it again. "Kennel." I said. He laid down and we did it again. Wouldn't move. (And he does understand "kennel".)

I do mini-training sessions every day, and they both behave almost perfectly. But afterwards, they slip to about 75%. Should I cut out ALL of the treats I use in training? I cut them down to only two or three already.

S&B's Mom, your trainer makes sense on the bribing tactics, I completely understand that and thanks. It's me coping out because of my frustration. As far as Max's behavior on walks, he doesn't seem fear aggressive at all when it comes to people or pets. When he does meet someone it is wiggle-butt action and kisses and he gets so excited he pees. He's really good with strangers. Can a dog "want" to meet people that much? LOL

We used a prong before and they didn't work. I quit using them along time ago because Max would pull no matter what the cost, and hearing him gasp for air and choke himself was too much for me. We switched to a choke collar, which my other dog Sara has reacted to very well. I never have to jerk her. When she pulls ahead she feels the pressure and backs off. With Max, you could (not that I do) take the thing pull it tight as you can and wrap it around him a few more times and he wouldn't care. We've done the hard "pops" on him and he will cease his pull for about 1 second and go right back to strangling himself by pulling as hard as he can to the destination - the person ahead of us or behind us.

Other than that on the walk, he heels perfectly. It's only when we see people or animals. And he doesn't refuse to go into the kennel all the time. Not very often.

When you guys say toughen up what do you mean? Should I not only pop him with the collar but pop him on the butt with my fist? I give a good tough "NO!" which the only time he doesn't respond to it is during walking and seeing people and pets. I say No! give a pop and try to make him sit. He still goes nuts. Does being tough mean yelling at him at the time? I'm not the delicate soft spoken type. But this guy in only a few things won't obey me. ???? Everything else he is rediculously smart and obedient.

I'm having a personal trainer come out this weekend on Sunday. If you guys have anything else helpful for me, I'd appreciate it. And I'll keep the other post in my thoughts. Thanks!

:) :)