What a load of BS!!! These people are obviously uninformed or a few bricks short of a load!
I've been a member of Rottweiler.net for 2 years and have read thousands of posts. Abusive training methods have
never been advocated here! In fact, I've seen many members "set straight" when they mentioned rolling, hitting, etc!!
Perhaps these people who think we are so mean and abusive are the same ones who don't believe in crate training because they think it cruel.
The same ones who boohoo and wonder why when their poor dog gets electrocuted when it chews on the lamp cord or has to have surgery because it ingested something inedible while they were away!