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Originally Posted by jemarspujo

So, the full story goes like this. We have 2 dogs who spend the majority of their time outdoors as we have a 9 month old baby at home. One is a Rottie who is somewhat dog aggressive as he is unneutered; he is not let out of our yard without a leash or adequate supervision. we have a 4.5 ft fence with a pad lock on the gate so that nobody goes in or out without our knowledge. there is also a "beware of dog" sign on the gate.

It helps you get good answers when you give us good and full information to begin with.

Having a baby is not a good reason for banishing dogs to the great outdoors, and leaving them unsupervised with less family interaction.

A 4.5 foot fence will not keep any self respecting unsupervised rottweiler contained. You're VERY lucky your dog has not gotten out and mauled other dogs.

We had guests with a 8 y/o girl who was outside playing with the dogs. the little girl next door, also 8 y/o had a white, old, 10 lb. dog which they were dogsitting for a few weeks. our guest wanted to pet the little dog and so they decided to pass the little dog over the fence to our yard. well, there was no adult supervision in either yard but i am sure Pujo was standing there with ears up waiting for that dog to come over the fence.

This was a disaster waiting to happen. Why? NO ADULT SUPERVISION

I'm sure Pujo was waiting very eagerly waiting for his present.

anyway, i suspect that the little dog freaked out and squirmed as it was being passed to our yard with awaiting dogs 1000% larger but again there was no adult present so we are unsure.

I would have been freaking out too if I had been the dog, as he likely knew what your dog's intentions were BEFORE the 8 year old girls unwittingly led him to his death. Poor little bastard.

the girls claim that Pujo jumped up so we are not sure if they dropped the dog but it is certainly unlike our dog to snatch things.

I'm sure the girls are telling the truth. You have already stated your male is dog aggressive, and the girls just popped another dog into his territory without proper introductions, from over head. Sigh.

it was not a kill attack, he didn't shake, he played with the dog like a squeeky toy.

If the dog died, it was a kill attack. Don't sugar coat it.

i stopped him by pining him down. the dog clearly had puncture wounds to the thorax and should have been evaluated properly by the emergency vet who charges absurd fees. at any rate, the little dog passed away 2 days later.

I have been reading this thread with interest from the beginning. I cannot tell you how absurd it is to blame the veterinarian for the death of this dog, or for that matter, to complain about the price the veterinarian charged.

Plain and simple, this dog's demise was due to lack of proper supervision. The dog didn't die because of mal practice by the vet, the dog died because of mal practice by his owners.

I love animals and i can only imagine the hurt that these people will feel as a result of the loss of their dog but the fact remains that their dog got into our yard due to inadequate supervision of the dog and kids who don't think things through.

BINGO. The fact remains that YOU, the owner of the rottweiler allowed children to play UNSUPERVISED in your yard. Because of this, the children did what children do - play. Children of this age should NEVER be put into the position these girls were put in.

You are damn lucky your dog is clear headed enough not to redirect his aggression from the task at hand (killing the small dog!), and that he did not accidentally bite your company's daughter, or your neighbor's daughter.

the neighbors have mentioned that they are concerned for the saftey of both people and animals in the neighborhood and we politely reiterated that our gate is pad locked and our dogs are well controlled verbally and physically by us. we cannot control what happens when other things enter our yard without our knowledge.

Your neighbors have every right to be concerned. You need a six foot wood fence, preferably with no gate.

Your dog is not people aggressive, but let's think about things responsibly; if your dog gets over your 4 1/2 foot fence and goes after a dog that's being walked down your street, there could definitely be collateral damage to a human trying to break up a dog fight, so in that respect, they have every right to be concerned.

Cliff's notes: neighbors kid passed small dog to a little girl in our yard so that she could play with him, our Rottie attacked the small dog. no adults present on either side. no injury to children. improper veterinary care led to death 2 days later.

Again, you're damn lucky there was no redirection of aggression, and that your boy has a stable temperament.

Question: should i be concerned about the saftey of my baby? Pujo is very careful around her, lays near her as if to watch and protect her and has always done that. he puts his ears back and lays down in front of her and she tugs on him and follows him around the house and he just licks her. he has also been great with any child we ever had visiting. i have not been concerned in the past but now i know what he is capable of. does dog aggression ever turn to child aggression?

You should ONLY be concerned about the safety of your baby if you continue to supervise your dog around children the way you have been.

Use common sense and practice safe habits with dogs and children. Do not allow the baby on the floor with the dog. LEARN about dog behavior, body language and such.

Your dog was capable of killing an animal WAY before this incident. Now you know for a fact that your dog is indeed a normal, healthy dog. Learn how to be a more responsible dog owner. [notice I didn't mention a breed! this goes for all dog owners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

For your children, for your neighbors, and for the sake of this breed.

I hope you have a good attorney.