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Originally Posted by lblax  in your other thread about your dog shutting down you said you were a newbie trying to learn and now you say you havent worke a pit in several years leading us to believe your experianced so which is it????? newbie or old hand
then you stated this
really re read this then ask yourself why is your club training a dog that is nervy and not of the right temperment for the work then think back on your own dog and why it shut down |
I haven't worked dogs in 14 years and even then I've only worked a few as I was just being taught. I'm new to schH but not new to dogs. All of my past bite experience was civil but then I got hurt playing football and wasn't able to do anything for a year. Now I'm 60lbs heavier and pretty much useless when it comes to working dogs or doing anything active. A fractured pelvis will do that. I wouldn't call myself experienced, it doesn't mean I can't read a dog.
When I decided to do schH I went in with the mindset of a sponge, take it all in and do what is right. When I was around dog training in my early 20s it was all compulsion. I'd never used any of the positive motivation methods. Had I started thinking, well I used to do this and that... that would mean I'm not really listening.
My dog has conflict in OB, not in protection and not in tracking. I haven't done any real OB with my dog since that day. Now we track 3-4 days per week and do protection twice. My dog shut down because I put too much pressure on him during OB - I gave him some compulsion, too much and at a time where he'd never experienced any. I don't have a fancy euro import Rottie from working lines. He's just a dog I bought to be a pet. My only requirement at the time was that he would chase a ball and there were no hip issues in the pedigree.
Ask your national helper buddy in AZ why he works his dogs with nerve issues. That dog has looked better as she's matured but that club he's in doesn't have a helper other than him so it's not getting the proper work. Then again none of the dogs were getting worked properly. Anybody can stand in a blind and take a bite from an experienced dog.
And Larry, you've not seen my dog work. He's edgy, not nervy. There are experienced guys that I'm working with now, they've titled multiple dogs, they think my dog can get his schH1 in just a couple of months - he'll be 19mo then but I'm waiting until Nov so that will put him at 23 months. And if he can't do it then he can't do it. Anyway, I'm not a dog trainer and will never claim to be anything but a musician that would turn even YOUR head with what I do.
Edit to add:
Maybe this will help with some of my dog experience confusion: A former relative used to train K9 cops and personal protection dogs. When I was younger I thought it was cool and asked him to teach me. I learned a lot back then, my first dog was a failed K9 rottie. She had some bite training and if she was coming to me then I needed to learn how to control her and play with her. Also understand that I am forever grateful for the things I learned from J. Laubmeier and the people I know because of him.
Peace.