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Old 04-06-2008, 10:21 PM
Mick Trainer Mick Trainer is offline
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Re: Looking for a Schutzhund Rotti...

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Originally Posted by bremner53 View Post
I would love your guys help in directing me in the right direction. Who is consistently producing good working dogs? I want a high prey drive, good fight drive, nerves of steel, and a HARD dog, I want a dog that can handle a correction and not fall apart.
Whilst finding such a dog in any breed is very difficult and whilst it causes me so much pain to say it I think the chance of you finding such a dog in a Rottweiler is extremely remote as few such dogs really exist anymore. Most Rottweilers doing SchH work carry no really seriousness in the work and would never be considered by anyone who knows what they are looking at as serious. There was a thread here recently titled Working (Schutzund) lines which you can find here http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/wor...und-lines.html were some of us discussed this issue to some degree so it would be worth you reading that thread. In short for me there are very few truly strong working Rottweilers any more and most tjhat are go back to the truly old working lines such as Dingo, Aki, Falco, Noris, Arri, Ives etc and even having such dogs in your line doesn't make them a working dog as it will depend greatly on what dogs you have gone through from then till now. You can find a nice sport only dog reasonably easy in Rotts but "good fight drive, nerves of steel, and a HARD dog" is truly hard to find. Dog like Kanto seem to through a few dogs here and there but for me the real power is almost gone and with no individual country seeming to produce such dogs the chances of finding such a dog become scarce. I am now putting semen I have had for 11 years back over one of my bitches as well as I will be doing some serious line breeding and taking a larger than I would of previously chance, to try to bring out the last of the more serious dogs hoping to hold onto such a dog but the odds keep stacking against it. In the end the vast majority lack the nerve and fight drive that you seek.

For this reason I would encourage you more towards the German Shepherd Dog as I see more (although few) dogs of this type within their gene pool and thus would give you a vaslty greater chance of finding such a dog and also having something to go to for the next generation if you do get one than in Rotts. I see no other breed who truly matches the numbers of truly strong dogs as the GSD (again let me say there isn't many there either, but at least enough to keep the gene pool strong) and even in this breed I would encourage you towards DDR lines with a pinch of West German and Czech dogs thrown in and even in the GSD again I like the older lines with a bit of the new thrown in but that is just me.

Mick.
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