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Old 03-31-2008, 06:14 PM
jazzking1971 jazzking1971 is offline
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Re: what makes a dog stop working?

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Originally Posted by lblax View Post
so you did long bites for the 1st time but you think your dogs ready to title??? you just truly dont get what the importance there is in letting a young dog be a young dog in the long run your dog will suffer from the training and will eventually revert back to the foundation which there was none. and that will leave you at a trial watching one of the helpers you called out or one of the many helpers they will tell run your dog off the field all the way to germany just to prove a point.
Larry, I'm not saying my dog is ready to title, OTHER people are saying my dog is ready to title. There in lies my confusion. I don't know who to trust. On one hand I want to go with people that I know and have been working with for a year, on the other hand I want to trust the people who have been there done that to a very high level.

And the helper you speak of is the one who's helped me with my foundation work. He's also the one that says NOW he needs to train with a helper that doesn't understand basic drives nevermind how to build them. I've seen feurhaus run off a dog. I have tons of respect for his work on the trial field but his last training maneuver leaves me and others scratching our heads. (You too) I can't believe he'd want my dog to get screwed up. So either he does want him to be screwed up or he doesn't know that my dog could get screwed up. Does this make sense?

When a guy like Wayne Walcott says "two months" should I believe him? He didn't run off my dog on the long bite and I understand it could happen. I don't know him from adam and he doesn't care one bit about me. In fact I doubt he even remembers my name at this point. I have friends are bringing me to the best they know and that's further and further from the people that I know and grew with. So why would he say something like that? Maybe because it's true or because he dislikes some of the people I know and wants to see me fail because of it.

jlhnokc, I can see why you think I'm impatient and perhaps so BUT I'm all about what is right and fair. If it takes two or three or never then so be it. I've submitted myself to just do what others tell me as long as I know they know what they are doing.

Understand that my little schH world has been shaken to the point that I am on my own truth seeking mission. This world is crazy yet very much like the music world. Some people say so and so is an idiot. Others says somebody is is nothing but a big peice of meat, yet others say so and so is great but another person will say stay away.

I'm looking for a foundation for myself and for now it seem that I should just listen to the people who've been there and done that in the very least.

Do I think the guys in my club have what it takes to help me title my dog? One of them does but I haven't seen results

Do I think the other guys I work with have what it takes to title a dog? Absolutely and they've proved it and on top of that I am seeing results with my own dog.

To further the confusion, one of the helpers in my club trained with me and another training helper, this guy said he likes what he sees and mentioned that this helper just brings out things our main club helper hasn't.

Huh???????

So now I'm left with who to trust. What I see or what I feel or what I hope?

This is not about impatience this is about what is right for me and my dog.

Do I think I will get to a national level? Probably not, but I'm going to try my best. BUT if that's my goal then I need to make sure that I am doing things correctly and working with the right people.

Last edited by jazzking1971; 03-31-2008 at 06:28 PM.
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