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Originally Posted by moondog Although it doesn't take a genius to figure it out without a visual of the physics, here's an experiment for you, since you're so comfortable with the concept of spray bottles. Pick up your spray bottle, spray your dog, and come back and tell us which way she moves in relationship to you. |
When and if I'm using aversive methods, I prefer my dog not to know the aversive is coming from me. Which is why I always try to spray her from behind (Or have my husband do it) so she can't see where the water came from. I already said this before, of course. I'm guessing you'll either ignore me or try to insult me again to distract me from the issue. Sorry, but that's not going to work.
So let me ask YOU a question, when you're using a prong or a choke on your dog, does she realize you're choking her? After you cause her real physical pain (Rather than just annoy her with some water) where does she move in relationship to YOU? I bet she can't WAIT to crawl up into your lap, huh?
At least when my dog comes to me, she comes to me of her own free will. And not because I literally yanked her to me by the chain I had fastened around her neck. Which, I might add, is the cornerstone of operant conditioning. You would know this if you bothered to educate yourself fully on the theories before preaching them incorrectly. Operant conditioning is about giving the animal a CHOICE.