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Old 03-30-2008, 03:45 PM
Calin Calin is offline
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Re: Use of spray bottles in training

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Originally Posted by moondog View Post
Rather, you choose to just shut that part of her down and you will defend it to the death, for some reason.
I defend it because it WORKED and it worked quickly. Furthermore, it was recommended to me by someone with a lot more experience, credentials, and education than you.

Also, you keep insisting that my dog in some way 'shut down' or 'disengaged' from me, which if you actually met me or my dog, you'd realize how incredibly false your statements are. Like I said, the only time I've EVER seen my dog shut down is when I put a prong around her neck.

I also recommend it because it is kinder and gentler than a lot of aversive methods that are applauded on here by people who really don't understand operant conditioning.


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What if you are outside or anyplace else but inside. Did you carry a bottle strapped to you whenever you took the dog outside? One of the main points (in my opinion) is that a correction needs to be as immediate as possible. So many gimmicks out there that can't be used immediately.
I get your point. But my point is, *convenience wise*, carrying a squirt bottle around is no different from carrying around a toy. Furthermore, since it worked a lot QUICKER than redirect-redirect-redirect-with-a-toy-even-if-it's-not-working, I only had to carry the squirt bottle around for a shorter period of time than I did the toy.
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