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Old 03-25-2008, 09:12 PM
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Re: what makes a dog stop working?

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Originally Posted by laurlitt View Post
Are you serious?

NO ONE has agreed with your statement that rottweilers can’t handle 2 sessions in bitework per week MAX due to Pressure. That is quite an ‘extreme’ stance to take. Your statement implies that that there is NO WAY a dog could do more than 2 sessions.. Period… It is very frustrating when someone can’t stick to the actual logic of the conversation and clouds it with faulty arguments.

Larry said “2 times a week is plenty of bite work “ and “if for no other reason than muscle repair and rest i like to do no more that 2-3 times per week regardless of the dogs desire to work”

I’m sorry, but I fail to see where he claims that a dog can’t handle more than 2x per week MAX due to not being able to handle pressure.

Matt said “2 times a week for protection for a Rott is more than enough”

Again, no where do I see that Matt said that a Rott can NOT handle more than 2x per week b/c the dog can’t handle the pressure.

So… I have yet to see ANYONE who has agreed with your initial statement that I commented on. Do you not understand the discussion we are having…? I have not stated that a rottweiler MUST have 5 times per week or that ALL can handle it… but that Rottweilers CAN handle more than 2x… especially a well bred working Rottweiler… they do exist…

But from my own personal household I currently have 4 rottweilers (ages 14 months to 9.5 years) that ALL can handle the pressure of more than 2X per week bitework sessions. Our good friend who trains with us has 3 rottweilers (ages 10 months to 5 years)… ALL of them can handle the pressure of more than 2X per week. I guarantee her SchH3 male who passed away 4 years ago could handle 7X per week and would welcome the opportunity. The 4 rottweilers that we trained w/ back at our club in CA also ALL could handle more than 2X per week… I’m sure I could scrape up plenty of other examples of rottweilers current and past who could handle the pressure of bitework more than 2x per week…

As for all your other comments after the one I quoted... this are all extra topics that weren't part of your original statement... and my response...

A final reminder of my original statement “Many a dog (including young green dogs) can handle 3-5 times per week” I think you’d be hard-pressed to find someone who would say that statement as a whole is FALSE, yet you have managed to dance around it.
Pressure getting to you? OK, that was a little funny. Haven't danced around a damn thing. I wanted to discuss all my reasons for the statement, INCLUDING the fact that the dog doesn't need pushed with that much PRESSURE to progress very nicely. Maybe the others have not come out and said your EXACT words, but they have agreed that 2 times is the best. Everyone that you quoted. Now go ahead again and find a different way to re-word that, and we'll see who is dancing here. Train 7 times a week if you want to. This is getting rediculous. So there is NO DANCING inferred, my opinion is 2 times a week for protection training is a safer schedule for the vast majority of rotts, but since I don't know every rott, have only been in the sport for a few years, it's my opinion, but it's backed up by respected trainers and helpers I know, and more than a few here that I don't know. Congrats with your dog Maddie. I saw the SchH titles on her. Trying to keep this short so you have time for your next protection training tonite. Once again, that was a little funny. Seriously, whatever works for you Laurie.
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