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Old 03-10-2008, 05:38 PM
toobad toobad is offline
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Re: What's a good price to pay

Hmmm, got quite the conversation going now. There are a LOT of dogs here in the US that were imported for $50,000 or more. There are a lot of people selling puppies for $3000, $4000, $5000 too. Matter of fact ... my dogs sire was bred to a female in upstate N.Y. not long ago and the pups were on puppyfinder dot com for $4000. I heard the guy got $4800 for the pick male

My dogs sire is no Karl vom Hause Neubrand and he sure doesn't have those titles. He is a nice dog, a UCI International American Canadian Champion but he is no Klub Sieger. I paid $1500 for my pup and he has been to quite a few shows. He does very well and I got every dime of the $1500 I spent for him. He started showing at 5 months and got a P rating. Two weeks later he got VP-2 at the 2006 USRC North East regionals. He got VP rated again at the USRC Nationals. He was V-3 at the NERF show in the fall. He got V-2 at the AIRK Nationals last fall. His last show he was rated SG4 at the USRC Northeast regionals 2007. NO DOGS under two years old were V rated at that show.

My poor dog took such a bashing after that show from a breeder in PA that I made up my mind right then that I was going to have BETTER in the future. My dog is a PET first and foremost. Showing was FUN but now it is PERSONAL. Her dog probably cost twice what my dog did.

So now I go shopping for what I hope is MY future champion. At this point money is no object. I want a house full of nice dogs. I personally believe that anything my dog sires will be far better than anything her dog will ever produce but only time will tell. A Karl puppy would be a nice addition though.

I have an honest to goodness list of people ( 63 to be exact ) who are waiting for my dog to get his health clearances because they want a puppy. I have three kennels waiting for the same thing because they have small females they want to breed to him. I don't want to make just puppies, I want to make winners and I won't breed him to make pocket money. If I do anything at all with my dog I hope that I do it right for the breed.

If I choose to pay $5000 for a puppy you can be sure I will get my money back in the future. I have not yet made up my mind because I do already have a house full ( 6 dogs ) and I want to be fair to them. I try to spend equal time with all of my dogs but I can only stretch myself so far. Two males fighting is also a big worry.

The one thing I am not worried about is being able to show him at a USRC show. People show up with all sorts of stuff at a USRC show and don't have a problem showing. I myself have shown a female bred from two 13 month old dogs with no titles or health clearances. But, there is always the AIRK shows if USRC won't take Karl offspring.


Very sorry the post was so long and it really got off topic but I just wanted people to know that you CAN buy a very nice puppy for $1500, maybe less if you shop around.
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