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Really not trying to unduly stir something up here...but I still say the show and work titles should be proven before breeding. Even if the pedigree is outstanding, it's not the ancestors that are being bred here. I have never bred a litter of my own, and doubtfully I ever will since I only buy males, so I know there are a lot of people MUCH MUCH more knowledgable about breeding, but if the dogs are all that promising it seems that the work and show titles should be relatively within reach at an early age. I think it means more when you can tell prospective buyers that you are hoping for some very good work/show prospects, because you can speak from experience with the parents, as well as the ancestors..and it was proven before mating happened.