To address additionally what Janet has talked about, when researching a breeding, one should look into what has been produced.
Junky (the sire of this announcement) has produced one litter of 9 puppies (my litter). So far, with 5 dogs tested, we have 2 OFA Excellents, 3 OFA Goods and 5 sets of clear elbows. Two more dogs will soon be tested and sent in, and one final one is still waiting to save up for testing. That will give results on 8 of 9. Not too shabby.
Simply b/c a dog is not titled does not mean that it has not been tested, and this is where knowing the person doing the breeding comes in handy. Or better, having the working experience yourself and knowing how to properly evaluate the dogs being bred.
Ron has put SchH1 and BST titles on two previous dogs that he's owned. He's put BH/AD on other's dogs, and subsequently with these two. He knows temperament absolutely and would NOT be doing this breeding if he felt there were serious flaws.
How many who are so quick to judge have considered the idea that there may be club issues re: training time. What do you do when your helper comes down with a serious health issue? When there have been subsequent surgeries over the past 18+ mos of shoulder repairs, knee replacements, and more are needed?
Not all of us live in the land of good helpers and when the one you find suddenly has real life to deal with, guess what..........you don't always get your titles done. But last time I checked, it ain't the titles that pass on, it's the genes. If the talent is there, it will pass.....pure and simple. This is a breeding between dogs out of one of Germany's oldest and most solid working kennels. These bloodlines are what German working breeders have turned to for GENERATIONS to produce some of the great dogs of today. Need a common name? Look at Noris. Linebred on Herrenholz's A litter .... way back when. It's good solid blood that's been around a very long time and is well proven.
Junky's puppies are collectively out working on CDX legs, Open agility legs, Open Preferred agility legs, SAR work, Rally titles, have earned RN's, CD, BH's, AD and will soon be entering for BSTs.
If anyone would like to candidly discuss either dog in this breeding, feel free to contact me. I've known them both since they got off their respective air planes.
As to CH's, I quite frankly find little value. And, no offense to Ann, the Canadian CH doesn't hold a drop of water *with me* as no majors are required. The phrase "shoot up to Canada and grab a CH" is not a very complimentary one to the CKC.
I understand Janet's point fully, however, as Patti suggests, it would have been nicer to start a new thread, rather than putting a negative slant on a breeding.
Seems to me I took far less heat than this when I bred to Junky, and at the time, he was <gasp> 'untitled!'
