I just want to say that I had sent my Tyson away for 2 weeks for training and could not be happier with the results. This training also came with the trainer coming over after the training for 4 sessions to train me with my dog. I am not soft nor lazy and Tyson is very much bonded with me. What others think is wrong is not always wrong for others. That is why we are all on this forum is to discuss, learn, and share experiences with our Rotts. I am not trying to promote this type of training but I am just sharing with everyone that in my case it turned out great. Pls don't flame me, I am very sensitive...