[dipper]

OK Skip I see your point.

I took what Otis said in a different context---maybe he technically mis-spoke but I understood his meaning.

I understood what he said or got the meaning of what he was trying to say because I owned such a dog.
I am not the best trainer or the most experienced or an "expert" on the breed but I owned a dog that if put in the wrong hands, would have been a nightmare.
He was a very dominate, hard dog with very high fight and defense drives--but, very few people saw this---out in public he was fine. IN public,he was not aggressive or outwardly mean, he was approachable and friendly so everyone thought "hey, great temperament!!" which was true---however, if the wrong kind of person owned him --"matcho type"--he would have been looked at in a entirely different light and I am sure his life would have been cut short.

I think that maybe that is what Otis was saying----Maybe he'll come back on and explain things for himself---he should anyway.

My current dog is a 3/4 brother to your Shane---he is working out pretty good.

Peace,

Rich