[JemarsSerena]

For the sake of discussion, is it safe to say that even though a dogs first role is as a simple family pet it can still be a working dog even though it technically does not have a formal job other than obedience and excersize? I'm not disagreeing with either idea, I 'd just like to get a better idea of what a working dog's role is in the present day. I'd have to respectfully disagree that their role is the same as it was in the past. It is a different time even if the dog is unchanged. I am in no way implying that the standard should be changed.

So if a rott is not trained in PP/Schutzhund/herding does that make it any less of a working dog?