[denverday]

Originally Posted by Barry

Im amazed that anyone still uses these medevil devices for training.The prong collar is a poor substitute for developing a true training/interactive realtionship with your dog. The gentle leader is a much more evolved tool for communicating with your dog.When you are training you must be the center of atention for your dog.I think you should seek out a trainer who takes a more 21st century approach to training.

Im amazed that sadists who use the shock collar have not gotted together with the prong collar people and developed the Electric prong collar.

Regards
Barry

I myself have tried the gentle leader...I did not have any better results...the prong is supposed to be used for self correction...one does not correct the dog with it....The shock collar is something people use to correct...I don't believe in them for me..there is a difference....Please know what you are talking about before you make such broad foolish uneducated comments.