[BostonRott]

This trainer is so full of it his eyes must be an amazing shade of brown.

WHY would you shock a dog after giving a command without giving time to respond? And WHY in a group of people??? I understand how the collars are used to train, I don't need any explanations of timing of correction vs. constant stim. I want to know why YOU did it.

I have worked with collars in the past and this makes no sense. The collar offers no direction to it's correction and if the dog is fed up with it and feeling he received an unwarranted correction (which he did), he's going to lash out.

I personally see no use for this type of training. I do see a use for collars and have used them with success. A dog who does not respond unless the collar is on a 5 is a dog who has been abused by the collar. 5 should be a level only needed when a dog is in extreme drive and walking across a room of people is not extreme drive.

If you feel this dog is only controllable by a remote collar, he has NO business being in public.