[MontanaRott]

Guerin would take the db all day long from Phil's hands. But would not pick it up from the floor. The forced retrieve as tried by our trainer was a dismal failure, Guerin took umbrage and let her know THAT was not a good thing. So when talking to my aunt about other matters(she trained and trialed a couple of dogs to their UD's) she said "for heavens sake just throw it". So Phil tossed it and low and behold Guerin picked it up and came to Phil and did a perfect front. He is now a db retrieving fool! And last week started retrieving over the jump.
Right or wrong it did the trick.