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Originally posted by nick teifke
I believe you only have to pass a breed test if you want to register the dog. You can breed any dog and not register them, can you not?
Furthermore, the breed test is subjective. It is given to dogs who dont deserve it, and withheld from those who do. Every breed test under a different judge is different.
We could never have this system here :) There are too many big time breeders who would never dream of subjecting their dog to protection work. |
No, in Europe, Germany specifically, the dog must pass the Korung in order to be bred. In order to continue breeding they must retake the Korung every two years. They can apply for a lifetime Korung (Gekort bis EzA) in which the dog is determined to of excellent breeding stock and not needed to test every year. Females can only br bred to the age of 8 and males to the age of 9. Yes, you are correct in that a litter cannot be registered unless the dog has a Korung, so technically two non-Korunged dogs can be bred, but I will tell you why this does not happen as told to me by an FCI/ADRK judge/Breeder/former show person.
Germany is a very small country. They are a very arrogant people who have a lot of pride. So when they breed they breed to breed the best dog to beat out whomever has the current best dog/kennel. They are always striving to outdo each other. They breed to be the very best and to gain recognition, because that is the German mentality, hence they follow all the rules very closely.
In addition to that, Germany is a very small country and 'poor' in relation to the US because the cost of living is very different over there. Stud fees run between $400 and $600 as do what we would call show quality pups. Can you imagine that someone purchased a Rick vom Burgthann or a Ken vom Scwaiger Wappen for a mere $400? To us that is a steal, but to them, that is a lot of money.
So, by following the rules and breeding the very best dogs possible that are very successful in the show rings, produce good get, they make a name for themselves...most importantly over here in the US. Then we want to import their dogs. And we pay top dollar for them. One good sale and that family is set.
For instance, I know of a dog very recently that was sold out of Germany to someone here for $125,000. Now here that is not a lot of money due to the state of our economy. But in Germany and Europe where the cost of living is MUCH lower and the dollar is worth more, that can set a family up for a LONG, LONG time.
So between their arrogance to be the best and breed the best, and their desire to become known so that can sell theri dogs here to America and make a lot of money, they have the incentive to try to meet or exceed the written standard. If you ask most Germans they will tell you that for the right price, they would sell their own mother...and that comes straight from the horse's mouth.
And let's face it. All of the most famous. most accomplished. most legendary Rottweilers, the ones who shaped this breed into what we know it today, came out of Germany...Ives von Eulenspeigel, Timm von Mummler, Rick von Burgthann, Doc von der Tuefelsbrucke, Arri vom Hertner Wappen, Dingo vom Schwaiger Wappen, Vicky vom Schwaiger Wappen, Ken vom Schwaiger Wappen, King vom Schwaiger Wappen, Santo vom Schwaiger Wappen, Hassan vom Konigsgarten, Nero vom Scloss Reithem, Chris vom Obergrombacher Schloss, Irk vom Obergrombacher Schloss, Bea von der Teuflesbrucke, Benno von der Schwarzen Heide, Matcho vom Burgthann, Balou vom Silberblick, Danjo vom Schwaiger Wappen, Donner vom Herrengarten, Noris vom Grutenblick, Muck vom Grutenblick, Hero vom Hohegeiss...the list could go on, and on and on. They are consistently producing Klubsiegers, Bundeseigers, World Seigers. When was the last time you heard of an American dog/import winning any of these titles???? Or the first time for that matter?????????
And if their system is so corrupt, then why are we and have been for years importing THEIR stock to build and improve our stock. We import German/Belgian/Hungarian dogs by the hundreds every year to improve our lines. Yet, you never hear about Germans importing our dogs to improve their limes. Its because they breed consistently good dogs because they have a system that works and they understood genetiics and linebreeding long before it was a flash in the pan over here. And we know it and have been unsuccessfully trying to emulate it for years.
And furthermore, why do you think that Germany and Europe are not frought with rescue dogs like we are here???? Because they breed much more discriminately. There are fewer breeders and fewer litters bred. They take a lot more care with their breedings because, again, due to their arrogance and desire to produce the best, they breed with one sole goal in mind...to exceed the written standard in every way. They do not want substandard litters so they are very careful how they breed...a substandard litter will make them no money. And German/European buyers are much more discriminating than we are...again, due to their arrogance and pride, be it a breeder, pet owner, show person. They want high quality dogs. I've talked to more than one American with ties in Germany/ Europe that say even the dogs that turn out pet quality are still in many cases far superior to the show quality that we are breeding here.
So as much as we hate to admit it, deep down we know that the Germans know what they are doing and that their systems works. The reason it would not work here is that 90% of the dogs would not cut the muster and it would put a lot of breeders out of business.
...which would help clean up our rescues and shelters so I would think you, Nick, would be all for that! ;)