[beth gordon]

poohbearsmom, the only other symptom I see is that while the rest of the dogs have shiny, shiny coats, Winnie's always looks like puppy fuzz. Other than that, it's the obesity, that I feel is not due to overfeeding. My regular vet and an orthopedic surgeon I took her to to evaluate the possibility of a HR would not put her on thyroid medicine because they think it can be altered with a change in diet.

Beckysmom, I have Winnie on the diet version of raw fed dogs. She gets a skinned chicken back and a lean meat ball (that houses her supplements). In the morning before I leave for work she gets 3 one-inch Wellness bars which I have now halved. I just can't cut her back any more. I am taking her to the vet on Wednesday for more blood work. Something you said just also triggered a thought. Periodically she gets these growths on her eyelids that only respond to prednisone and that the vet said are a function of an autoimmune problem. Maybe there is more to this than has been looked into by my vet.

Rottlva, I am going to ask the vet about a lose dose of thyroid meds to maybe kick start her metabolism. I would much prefer that to changing her diet. The only symptoms I see are the poor coat quality. She is bright-eyed, sweet-natured, has an active wiggle butt (from the floor...), seems happy, is affectionate. She just has that fuzzy dull coat that never looks healthy. How does an endocrine disorder look different than a thyroid disorder? Are there different symptoms?

Thanks so much for your help and suggestions. You just know so much! Thanks again for trying to help my Winnie.