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Old 01-04-2001, 12:56 PM
German Vanegas German Vanegas is offline
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Orville Story:The AKC does not recognize the sport of Schutzhund so any dog with a sch title will not be recorded by the AKC.</font>
Yep! That's so true!

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Orville Story:On another note the AKC does not recognize FCI conformations titles, according to the author's reasoning this would mean that AKC is against FCI conformation show. This is simply not true.</font>
You well know that there are major discrepancies between the FCI and AKC, such as breeds recognition, judging and scoring system, working trials, etc. They both definitely have a common goal but with very different policies

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Orville Story:AKC does not have a priority; Shows, Obedience, Herding, Tracking, Hunting, Agility, ect. are all treated the same. The dog fanciers across the country prefer to do conformation more than the other events. The AKC only sanctions these events. It is up to local clubs to put them on, and dog people to show an interest in them.</font>
I concur. Even though there are all those optional events, the AKC breed fanciers prefer to conglomerate around the show rings than to participate in any working trials. That alone says a lot about showing V. working...

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Orville Story:I can tell you that yes sometimes they do lose money. When this money is lost, who pays the tab? It is the members of that local club that put on the show so Dog people could enjoy their dogs. It is those people that send the delegates to AKC. Even if they don't lose money, they are the ones that put in hundreds of volunter hours into the events. </font>
I agree. Local breed clubs may sometimes lose money, but not AKC. You know that AKC has plenty of revenue and budget surplus

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Orville Story:We have lost money hosting AKC events, we did so this year with 132 entries in our Obedience event. We did so last year with our Tracking event. But we are a dog club and putting on these events help promote the work abilities of all dog breeds. As a club we are willing to put in tremedious time, effort, and sometimes our own monies so our sport and dogs have a venue.</font>
*sigh* Once again, sadly enough that is the choice of most AKC people. Typical AKC breeders and breed fanciers prefer to show conformation in the ring than to compite with their dogs in any working trials

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Orville Story:I also belong to another clubs mentioned in the article that promotes Schutzhund, the USRC. I am a member of both the USRC, an a member of Magic City Rottweiler Club, a local USRC Club that promotes Schutzhund. I also belong to Central Schutzhund of Ala, and Jefferso Co Schutzhund club, and United States Schutzhund club. I am an active member of each of these clubs.</font>
I am not putting you on trial Orville. I am fully aware of your dedication and commitment to our beloved breed. For whatever is worth, I admire you and respect you for that.

Anyway, it's always great to debate with you!

[This message has been edited by German Vanegas (edited January 04, 2001).]
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